Okay, yeah, I'll concede on that, but you were still making it about you, and you've continued to do so. Bringing your trauma and your own work into this is really not necessary. Maybe I don't spend enough time in this subforum, but I haven't seen you speak with this level of unearned authority about other mods.
Like, I dunno, like Chary said, considering you approached this with "we tried to HELP you and you IGNORED us", it's really not a good look. Feels like basically all the premier character mod makers jumping in against this kid in here for not conforming to some arbitrary style guide. Flashbacks to the 1.09.4 era and Super Mystic Sonic, anyone?
And you are right, constructive criticism is key and it's not your fault if the creator doesn't want to listen. Again, I lack context from the Discord too, but it seems to me like Prof Eevee responding this harshly to you was the sign of a bigger issue. That's where I got the impression that you were hounding them. Perhaps a hasty assumption on my part.
Yeah, i might not have been on those but i could imagine the war that happened in those times, also were working on a next version for Eevee and that Professor Eevee took the constructive criticism. It was appreciated that you guys commented on this since it helps recognise some error that we've could have forgot or some other stuff and i think that if we continue to comment on this it might turn into a hot thread about Eevee and the criticism he's been given without even us knowing.
EDIT: Charyb told me to remove screenshots of the actual dms. I'll just describe the basic gist of what happened instead.
Alright, I'll provide the context of the discord dm.
Basically, what happened in the dms is that I'd contacted him regarding the version of this mod that is on gamebanana (which mind you, is identical to the version uploaded here) in order to try to help him come up with some ideas for a more unique moveset involving evolution, eevee's main gimmick in the pokemon series, and to point him in the direction of roach's spriting tutorial. His response was essentially that this eevee was his "oc", and that the sprites had a "charm" to them, and that it was his first time spriting, which was not the point I was trying to make at all.
The main part I was disappointed about was not the fact that he didn't use my ability idea specifically, but that he still kept the sonic moveset and still didn't look at roach's tutorial (the sprites are the exact same as the gamebanana version).
My main purpose behind the post version was making it blatantly clear what I thought could be improved with this mod, since I may have been a bit vague in the dm.
About me bringing up things i've made, the point of that was not to make this about me, it was to show why I care so much about people having access to actual criticism. I've grown so much thanks to the help of others, and I just want that option to be there for others. I've stated previously on this thread that whether he actually listens to this stuff or not is up to him, I simply want him to have access to criticism, which is personally something I struggled to get any legitimate form of with my art for a very long time.
Regarding me bringing up personal stuff, I'll admit, that was pretty inappropriate. I'm still not gonna get into it, but I was an absolute wreck when I wrote that part of this all, something devastating had just happened irl, and I was not in a mental state where I should've been writing... well, anything.
You write as if listing everything wrong with a mod in extensive detail is "constructive criticism". Creators are not obligated to listen to criticism (especially if it's written like that), and they are definitely not obligated to fit your idea of "good" perfectly.
Again, already said that people aren't obligated to actually listen to the things I've said, but seriously how the fuck do you tell someone what you think could be improved with a mod without outlining it's flaws? Also, even with it's flaws, I explicitly stated that even managing to do all the angles for a full character wad is a commendable effort. Many characters that have been released here didn't even do that much
cough fehn cough, and as such, it's great that he atleast followed through with doing every angle.