[Open Assets] KRework - Beta moveset overhauls 0.6

[Krabs]

This addon is no longer in development.

Thok is for nerds

I've been toying around with custom sonic and tails movesets for a while now. While they're unfinished and probably somewhat buggy, I thought I'd release this to explain what I think Sonic could look like without the thok. There's also a major tails rework / nerf, some knuckles adjustments, and some universal changes that affect all 6 characters. Amy, Fang, and Metal have not gotten changes yet. This is an unfinished proof of concept, and the code's messy as hell.

Sonic:
Ability is now the double jump. It's no ordinary double jump though - there's some momentum redirection allowed. He can also perform a drop dash, and by charging for longer he can use a super drop dash or an ultra drop dash, which have even more speed.

Tails:
Ability is now 3 bursts of flight that allow him to gain height quickly and hover for a short while. His mobility may be reduced, but he now has the ability to enter a ball while flying, and has unlimited swimming. Overall, Tails is more agile while having less freedom to skip entire levels with ease.

Knuckles:
Tweaked the landing animation after a glide to be shorter and to not cut momentum very much.
Nerfed the height you can gain from gliding after a bounce

Spin characters:
Can recurl into a ball in midair by pressing spin
Can uncurl out of a ball on the ground by pressing spin
Buffed minimum spindash to 20

All:
Regain control shortly after being hurt
Can use jump abilities after hitting a spring, getting hurt, or walking off an edge
Refresh jump abilities after hitting an enemy
Reduced rebound from hitting bosses

Console commands:
freeaim (on/off) - allows drop dash and double jump to be aimed in any direction instead of using the camera angle (default on)
uncurltoggle (on/off) - allows the player to press spin to uncurl instead of releasing spin to uncurl (default on)

Spoiler: Known issues

Monitor bouncing & dust devils don't refresh abilities
This will probably break some/all custom characters, I'm not sure

Credits / Thanks:
- Drop dash sprites by DirkTH
- Loosely based off scripting by CobaltBW
- Sonic moveset inspired by the work of CobaltBW (Drop Dash and Double Jump) & Chrispy (Pointy Sonic)

All scripting is free to reuse. Please credit DirkTH if the drop dash sprites are reused.

 

[Zipper]

Waiting for the inevitable "But how was I supposed to know turning more than 50 degrees penalises the speed of my burst, causing me to fall into the thornets in CEZ2?"

That being said, welcome to Releases! This is now a no-thok zone.

 

[Mario A. Roach]

It's cool. I hope this can end the completely out of control debate that was happening about this...

---------- Post added at 01:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:58 PM ----------

Sonic double jump is bugged, when he gets grabbed by the spinning chains in CEZX he performs a second jump instead of the intended jump.

 

[CyberKnux]

It's cool. I hope this can end the completely out of control debate that was happening about this...

---------- Post added at 01:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:58 PM ----------

Sonic double jump is bugged, when he gets grabbed by the spinning chains in CEZX he performs a second jump instead of the intended jump.

Hmm... ok man there is lots of bugs in alot of characters in srb2 and stuff

 

[Mario A. Roach]

I'd also say that if you are playing in standard/legacy mode the dropdash should always go facing forward, I don't like it going wherever it wants to.
The same for the double jump thingy, it seems like something from simple mode, which shouldn't because I prefer it going forward, it messes up with my inputs and intentions.

---------- Post added at 01:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:04 PM ----------

Hmm... ok man there is lots of bugs in alot of characters in srb2 and stuff

This bug is completely related to this mod, I'm just pointing it out :v.

 

[CyberKnux]

Ok XLeederTH there is bugs in mods too you know? :>

 

[Mario A. Roach]

I'm so dumb, didn't notice the freeaim command was there. Although I still think it should be toggled off when outside of simple mode.

 

[Icarus]

I will try this but I still think thock is mandatory for the game.

 

[Krabs]

Fixed the CEZ chain issue

---------- Post added at 03:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:05 PM ----------

I'm so dumb, didn't notice the freeaim command was there. Although I still think it should be toggled off when outside of simple mode.

Even as a KB/M player who doesn't use simple mode, I personally prefer freeaim - I'm not a big fan of swinging my mouse around 180 degrees to save myself. If lots of people disagree, I'll change the default value to off.

 

[izzy]

Ok XLeederTH there is bugs in mods too you know? :>

Stop excusing bugs in a BETA MOD.

 

[[deleted user2]]

Sonic's double jump doesn't quite work right in Simple. Holding back still sends you forward.

 

[Mario A. Roach]

Suggestion: Tails could use a little time hovering while doing his flights.

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Even as a KB/M player who doesn't use simple mode, I personally prefer freeaim - I'm not a big fan of swinging my mouse around 180 degrees to save myself. If lots of people disagree, I'll change the default value to off.

Well, that's fair.

 

[Krabs]

v0.3 is out. Fixed analog mode issues, fixed boss rebound issues, tweaked some sfx, and added a few things I missed to the change list which were present from the beginning.

 

[pastel]

I dislike freeaim abilities (jump thrust, this, etc.) because they constantly screw me over by rocketing Sonic off to the side when I'm just trying to make minor adjustments to my trajectory. I'm glad you at least included a toggle to turn it off.

One issue I noticed is that the double jump doesn't respond very well to key press duration. Note the difference in two barely pressed jumps.

Tails's new ability is interesting but rough. I think he should should enter tired animations immediately after the third use of flight to signal that you're out of jumps. Having both a short timer and limited uses feels excessively restricted especially when Knuckles can still glide indefinitely.

Also, is this intentional? Recurling feels like it should be a commitment.

 

[Krabs]

v0.4 is out. Fixed both issues described by katmint, and also fixed drop dash angles in Simple mode.

EDIT: 0.5 is out. Fixed default value for freeaim being wrong.

 

[Mario A. Roach]

Freeaim toggles back on after starting a new game. Not reopening the game but cycling between stages or changing game types.

 

[Othius]

Oh dear god,


I'm not sure if this was intended for release- as you never mentioned it in release notes, but Amy has this god-awful hammer jump with your mod. It's way to high, far too unwieldy, it's inconsistent on whether you'll come to a dead stop when you hit the ground, or retain your momentum, and it really screws with paths made specifically for her. You can shoot far into the air from a standstill without moving. Overall it just doesn't feel right.

 

[pastel]

That happened because Amy uses mindash to determine her upwards thrust when hammering. You'll want to add a check to ensure the character actually has CA2_SPINDASH before overriding their mindash.

 

[Krabs]

Oh dear god,


I'm not sure if this was intended for release- as you never mentioned it in release notes, but Amy has this god-awful hammer jump with your mod. It's way to high, far too unwieldy, it's inconsistent on whether you'll come to a dead stop when you hit the ground, or retain your momentum, and it really screws with paths made specifically for her. You can shoot far into the air from a standstill without moving. Overall it just doesn't feel right.

Definitely not intended, lol. I'll see if I can get a fix up soon.

EDIT: fixed

 

[izzy]

Adding The Derp with this will screw up how the bounce works and give you unlimited bounces.