The Unknown Watcher
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A universal oops moment.
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sanicdahegehog
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This was Many Minor Tweaks' infinite lives. Also, loading that mod after StephChars allows Skip to use an invisible skateboard instead of crouching.
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Rosie kitsune
Your average Amy rose fan :>
sure gotta love when people dont read
Sparkette
Member
Awesome update, Echoes is pretty cool! I love some of her poses and her voice is cute.
I found a bug though. Bustable walls in SRB2 have a feature where they can trigger a linedef executor when broken. However, when Echoes breaks walls using her void sphere, it doesn't seem to call these linedef executors. You can test this by breaking the ring boxes behind spawn in my map Kinetic Playground Zone; normally, a linedef executor triggers them to respawn after a few seconds, but when breaking them as Echoes, this never happens so they don't reappear until you manually respawn them with the '!' monitor. If you are familiar with the hidden area where the yellow emerald is found in my map, this also breaks an event at the end of that section.
Great job on the update in general though!
I found a bug though. Bustable walls in SRB2 have a feature where they can trigger a linedef executor when broken. However, when Echoes breaks walls using her void sphere, it doesn't seem to call these linedef executors. You can test this by breaking the ring boxes behind spawn in my map Kinetic Playground Zone; normally, a linedef executor triggers them to respawn after a few seconds, but when breaking them as Echoes, this never happens so they don't reappear until you manually respawn them with the '!' monitor. If you are familiar with the hidden area where the yellow emerald is found in my map, this also breaks an event at the end of that section.
Great job on the update in general though!
Nullify
Member
Elaborating on the comment from my review, when I say Jana has a high skill floor, it's moreso in the sense of speedrunning, which I probably should have mentioned is the main way I engage with this game.
There's plenty of characters who can bypass level design but Jana is somewhat unique for how she breaks the game over her knee because the main tools she has to do this are an instant dash on the ground and a walljump, both of which still require her to be interacting with some aspect of level geometry. Additionally both of these actions send you off at a pretty high speed, lending them a degree of commitment that's also usually absent from strong characters.
Compared to other characters one would consider "broken" Jana requires faster thinking and execution to play well. There's probably a better word for it than "skill floor" considering she is still miles easier to beat the game with than any vanilla character not named Tails. I wouldn't say "skill ceiling" either since this is more about how much work it takes to play her well and not about how well she's able to play. While she's definitely not "balanced" she's easily my favorite character to run the game as.
Also sorry for the comment on echoes feeling less thought out, I had no context on her development.
And yeah I should have mentioned it but I anticipated that she doesn't work like Forgotten or Jacob due to the character's lore, another thing I'm mostly in the dark on.
There's plenty of characters who can bypass level design but Jana is somewhat unique for how she breaks the game over her knee because the main tools she has to do this are an instant dash on the ground and a walljump, both of which still require her to be interacting with some aspect of level geometry. Additionally both of these actions send you off at a pretty high speed, lending them a degree of commitment that's also usually absent from strong characters.
Compared to other characters one would consider "broken" Jana requires faster thinking and execution to play well. There's probably a better word for it than "skill floor" considering she is still miles easier to beat the game with than any vanilla character not named Tails. I wouldn't say "skill ceiling" either since this is more about how much work it takes to play her well and not about how well she's able to play. While she's definitely not "balanced" she's easily my favorite character to run the game as.
Also sorry for the comment on echoes feeling less thought out, I had no context on her development.
And yeah I should have mentioned it but I anticipated that she doesn't work like Forgotten or Jacob due to the character's lore, another thing I'm mostly in the dark on.
SonicGamer1000
Just a SRB2 Normal Person :)
I havent notice this and also It looks great of the update
Rednckpnkjr
Member
this update is great, echoes and abyss are great additions, good as always DrStephen
CrawlaSupremacy
Certified Dataminer
Annie's in the Kart mod, and she's not in the game, Echoes isn't in Kart but she's here anyway.
Unreleased chars with Silverhorn dialogue are sure to be added, anyway, but that's for Dataminers (like me).
MoriyaLuna
Member
new character is fun, the cooking is insane
DolphinCube
Cubin' Around SRB2
Am I the only one that thinks skip is just hat kid but SRB2? I swear to gosh hes like an exact represenation of what it could be like. Good job man.
Update: After all the chaos that happened there... I'm changing this.
I worded this wrong. I don't think skip is just a copy of hat kid in srb2. But is heavy INSPIRED by her instead. Especially with the fact that he doesn't use any kind of "hats" in his moveset. Which add completely new abilities when worn. His shield crafting abilites are more just upgrades to his dive. Which I guess could be connected to badges? But badges are a LOT more versitile. And some of them enable stuff like a camera or are completly useless and are made to make the game harder for you.
Update: After all the chaos that happened there... I'm changing this.
I worded this wrong. I don't think skip is just a copy of hat kid in srb2. But is heavy INSPIRED by her instead. Especially with the fact that he doesn't use any kind of "hats" in his moveset. Which add completely new abilities when worn. His shield crafting abilites are more just upgrades to his dive. Which I guess could be connected to badges? But badges are a LOT more versitile. And some of them enable stuff like a camera or are completly useless and are made to make the game harder for you.
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CrawlaSupremacy
Certified Dataminer
He IS meant to be a copy of Hat Kid.
HenryStickminFan2
Creator of the LotM web series
if Annie is ever added as a playable character, and she dies while Jana is also in the level, i want there to be a reference to the "WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR?" meme from Megaman X4. (this isn't a request, i don't want to break rule 15, i just think that would be a neat hypothetical)
CrawlaSupremacy
Certified Dataminer
Well, Steph said that any character from the Kart pack was gonna possibly made for SRB2.
We got Echoes, tho...
EDIT: Well, not really (I think he meant future OCs, not SRB2 characters.)
(+Max The Kitsune+)
(+A Diamond in The Sky+)
i'm not so sure if Annie and Hops will be added in the future. it depends on what Steph thinks.
CrawlaSupremacy
Certified Dataminer
I mean, he showcased a Metal Fang (he's called TUSK) in his Twitter, AND it has Silverhorn dialogue, soo...i'm not so sure if Annie and Hops will be added in the future. it depends on what Steph thinks.
HenryStickminFan2
Creator of the LotM web series
so that's why there was a Metal Fang portrait in the files of Silverhorn. i bet he's also working on Sage, since she's got portraits, too.
also (insert obligatory joke about Tusk from JoJo here)
SolarReaper
Member
light dasher is the one working on Sage. They've shown it off on their Twitter.