OLDC Summer 2020 Release & Discussion

[glaber]

I voted on all of the SP stages, but here's how I feel about some of them.
Heroes Hall was too long

Hypertower had no sense of direction and bad music. Playing the stage with CEZ2 music only helped the stage a little.

Hectic Harbor felt a little empty and was the "emerald start" map of the bunch, but you had to hunt the emeralds down. The emeralds aren't saved if you have to leave and comeback to the game later.

sonwflake ridge felt alright, but the bees hurt the stage just as much as they hurt me. the fire powerup was also not communicated well enough to tell what it did. It also needed more ways to recover health than just Extra Lives. Spyro had health animals, maybe health "bots" would have worked here?

Toffee Tor, Ok, I just know there has to be a kirby reference somewhere here. It wasn't just the music, was it?
I played this stage as Kirby and it almost felt like it was designed to also accommodate him too.

Metallic Madness was good, but as a good future, it left little to actually do.

Valley Falls just Fails. The maze was too confusing and reminded me of Sonic's Nightmare in a bad way. The first 2d section was even broken thanks to not having a proper transition tool like a speed booster.

[Simon_T]

Who's that pink-haired girl named Hilda who is in the files? Was she planned to be some sort of NPC to guide the player through the Hub but she got cancelled at the last second?

[ACStriker]

Originally Posted by Simon_T

Who's that pink-haired girl named Hilda who is in the files? Was she planned to be some sort of NPC to guide the player through the Hub but she got cancelled at the last second?

Yep; basically a thing Zipper was doing and wanted to hide in the hub somewhere but didn't have time to add her at the end. If you happen to be curious, she's from a Fire Emblem game (I don't remember which lol)

[GrayAngel]

So I posted my full list in my voting thread, but I just wanted to share some of my feedback for some of my favorite levels here. With pictures.

Metalic Madness - There is a spring which fails to launch the character high enough, leading to them taking a fall to their death. It works perfectly for Amy, which perhaps was the intention, but it led to what felt like an unfair death when playing as other characters.

Spoiler:

If you want it to be used only by Amy, I suggest surrounding it with spikes. But there's no reward for Amy taking this spring as apposed to the others, so... Also, that Amy/Fang path shortly after that is cool, but it took me a while to realize I could break that spot on the floor. I thought I was stuck. Oh, and the glass turns to dirt when you break it. I assume this is just a detail you didn't have time to address before the deadline.

Aqua Paradise - I found a pit near some spring that you cannot escape, if you're playing as anyone other than Knuckles.

Spoiler:

Rustic Templar - There's a spot I think is meant for Metal Sonic, which I got stuck in when playing as Amy. I was eventually able to escape with the Wind Shield.

Spoiler:

[Metafrost2]

Do they still count the votes? I'm already looking forward to it.

[sphere]

The votes have been counted! Click here for a spreadsheet containing the votes in detail, and here are the results:

SINGLE PLAYER
Oasis Palace Zone by So2ro - 757 points
Wild West Zone, Act 2 by Dead - 741 points
Metallic Madness Good Future by Kwiin & Kanna - 740 points
Rustic Templar Zone by MK.exe - 723 points
Toffee Tor Zone, Act 1 by RoyKirbs - 714 points
Aqua Paradise Zone by Twins'R'Awesome - 677 points
Spyro Ripto Blast 2 - Snowflake Ridge by TrickyTex & Tatsuru - 674 points
Shadow of Atlantis Zone by akirahedgehog - 555 points
Overgrown Heights Zone by InferNOr - 500 points
Hectic Harbor Zone by ACStriker - 500 points
Heroes Hall by Zaxel - 398 points
Cluttered Cave Zone, Act 2 by Riolucariolu - 389 points
Concordian Coast Zone by Ktoby & Pronicthewedgehog - 367 points
Myriad Memories Zone by ManimiFire - 364 points
Wasteland Wilds Zone by SunCyclone - 341 points
Cyan Heights Zone by PencilVoid 278 points
Anteggtica Zone by Radicalicious - 239 points
Magma Falls Zone by RadicalChaos_6922 - 213 points
Valley Falls Zone by Hamsandwich - 202 points
Crystal Cave Zone by CST1229 - 201 points
Hypertower Zone by WasifBoomz - 87 points

MATCH
Crystalline Heights Zone by Revan - 14 points
Disco Town Zone by Trege - 7 points
Spiral Cavern Zone by Su_per - 3 points

CIRCUIT
HydroWing Zone by JABSphere94 - 20 points
Greenflower Canyon Zone by Kwiin & Frostiikin - 17 points
Haptic Caverns Zone by PencilVoid - 6 points

ARENA
Gravity Station Zone by Krabs - 44 points
Hidden Chamber Zone by Krabs - 38 points
Mountainous Saloon Zone by InferNOr - 35 points
Pipeline Panic Zone by RoyKirbs - 26 points
Grassy Clearing by Apollyon - 20 points
Symmetri-Canyon Zone by PapsTheEchidna121 - 18 points
Arena Station by Latius - 8 points

BATTLE
Glimmer Gulch Zone by happyalm - 14 points
Peach Castle Zone by ACStriker - 11 points
SSN's Picnic by Zolton - 5 points

BATTLE CTF
Serene Shore Zone by Krabs - 27 points
Moonlight Zone by Krabs - 22 points
Big Arch by Kwiin - 9 points
Jagged Creek Zone by RoyKirbs - 8 points

Congratulations to the winners: So2ro, Revan, JABSphere94, Krabs and happyalm!

[Krabs]

I'm pogging

[So2ro]

Wait what, how

[Seaballer]

Congrats everyone!!!!!

[PrismaticAngel]

Good work everyone and congrats to the winners and their golden titles!

[Larz T]

I thought the voting thread would be public so I'm going to copy what I said in there to here.

I'm sorry I didn't get into any in depth criticism. The plan was originally to write a little paragraph critiquing each level to provide some feedback but I got really tied up with school and trying to fix my computer. Not to mention the big turnout for Single Player alone for this OLDC comeback. Really makes me happy to see this much content and to see how a lot of people are into mapping. I'll admit, I really like this new format for OLDC. Sure beats the days of downloading a RAR file and loading up each map into SRB2. This style is a lot more convenient and the presentation was stellar. Thank you for all your contributions to OLDC, mappers and all! Keep on mapping everyone

[Zipper]

But where did the hub place?

[Twins'R'Awesome]

Damn, just shy of the Top 5 :^(

Regardless, I got plenty of feedback this OLDC and I'm ever grateful for it.

Congrats to the winners and top 5, and for the rest of the participants, hope y'all got plenty of feedback and criticism for the next mapping endeavor you go on :> (provided, you *did* decide to continue with that instead of walking away forever)

[Ackeneister]

Congratulations, winners! I applaud your skills!

As for those who didn't win, next time's the charm, and for sure you'll win!

[Ktoby]

It sure was a relief to see CCZ wasn't the worst stage... It was development hell.


Anyways, congrats to everyone for being a part of the contest. All that matters is that we are moderately etched into history, and taking part.

[frozenLake]

Originally Posted by Zipper

But where did the hub place?

I have compiled a list of voting topics that mention the hub. Hopefully those can be used to get an idea of how it ranks... in a semi-official context.

https://mb.srb2.org/showthread.php?t=49276 (Second Post by OP puts hub at 8th place.)
https://mb.srb2.org/showthread.php?t=49259 (Hub in 2nd Place)
https://mb.srb2.org/showthread.php?t=49124 (While not in the ranking, its mentioned to get honorary first place)
https://mb.srb2.org/showthread.php?t=49293 (Missing Valley Falls Zone, thus not counted)
https://mb.srb2.org/showthread.php?t=49162 (Mentioned, but not placed in the Ranking)
https://mb.srb2.org/showthread.php?t=49144 (Mentioned, but not placed in the Ranking)

So, if you want to consider it... it got anywhere between 8th and 1st place. Which is still pretty good.

[sphere]

Originally Posted by frozenLake

So, if you want to consider it... it got anywhere between 8th and 1st place. Which is still pretty good.

Technically, with just three votes at 1st, 2nd and 8th place out of 22 entries, it would've been last place with only 55 points.

[frozenLake]

Originally Posted by sphere

Technically, with just three votes at 1st, 2nd and 8th place out of 22 entries, it would've been last place with only 55 points.

This is true. However, other votes got disqualified for missing a level in the division, so thus, if we only count votes that had all 22 levels, this means that first place is Metalic Madness, with 57 points, second place is the Hub with 55 points, and third place is Snowflake Ridge, with 53 points.

Also Hypertower only gets one point. Just thought this would be interesting to people.

[BlueZero4]

I'm not sure if I'm actually going to finish my OLDC playthroughs, so I might as well post this now.

This is a playlist of my OLDC playthroughs that I did for this contest so far: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...DKegenAhoa5OOZ

[WasifBoomz]

WATER. WATER MAP.