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HOW TO INSTALL?? I have downloaded the mod/file, but no matter what I try, I do not know how to use the mod on the Robotnik ring racer game, and I would give a higher rating after I get to play the mod. Can someone please tell me how to install the mod properly?
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I figured it out, you leave the mod file on addons folder, than launch the game and on extra they have on addons turn on option, than it works!! Looks amazing!!!
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I absolutely love the models, looks like as if the sprites were just inflated. Oh and i think metal sonic is missing (might be me idk)
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The levels themselves are great. The only issue imo is the difficulty spike at map 18 - Even small mistakes drop you to the point where victory can be just out of grasp because of a crusher. Although likely just me being bad at that regard.

Map 20... is just a kaizo troll map, to be honest. I can't put it any other way.
I tried doing map 20's hard route as fast I could cover it, but Tails' 8 second long flight was never enough (ascending and then instantly descending was a must or the ceiling or bottom poison would be leading to a death). I'll admit I looked at the map in SLADE, and... That's about 23 seconds of flight in the same narrow hall (way beyond what Tails can last, even with maximum speed, cannot reach about 2/4th).
Considering the large "LMAO" spelled at the end via floor tiles, I'm guessing that is meant to be intentionally undoable without cheesing it...

Besides those 4 hours of utter pain I'm never getting back, I'd argue this is a great pack. The pacing is just a little off at times.
Riolucariolu
Riolucariolu
Thanks :D
The hard path is completable :3
Flying up as tails slows him down, so you have to sparingly use it, it adds a layer of precision. Also, you have to fully charge a spindash in the beginning. The gravity obstacle afterwards, that's the hard part. Always lose between 10 and 30 lives there.
What would you change about map 18? Is the timer too tight? I remember when I first released the map, not even I could beat it because it was another 30 seconds or so shorter, and I thought that was crazy. It's definitely still hard, I wouldn't mind to just add 20 more seconds to the timer if you think that would help. Would be cool if you sent me a short DM about your thoughts :)
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my problems are fixed it's a decent mod . i wish it had customcharacter patch. some sonic stages need some rework.
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I'm suprised that I've played this character a lot and I didn't leaved a rating so here is it!

Gameplay wise overall, I feel it balanced, or as I always say, "Vanilla paced". that's a big plus! the moveset is fun to use. I like to use a lot the cool homing attack it has. the sound effects are also cool to hear.

The voices, im not fan that voices applies for all situations like death, pain, etc. The only acceptable situations for me where the voice applies is their attacks and taunts. nothing else.

I know that a command to turn off voices is there but, maybe another option is good to turn off most of the voices and only apply voices in the situations I mentioned...? maybe, is probably a dumb suggestion. or I can just make an external pk3 to patch it for myself.

I said this because attacks or taunts without his voice feels, off.

Now, Sprites. To be honest, it looks amazing despite being prerendered. If there would be actual sprites with "srb2's style" would be better of course, but I understand that not everyone are skilled or being veery patient to do that.

Overall this character is pretty decent and proves that a coder with a bit of blender knowledge (or the basics of spriting knowledge) can make very good characters.
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This map pack seems to jump between a fun, fairly easy experience and a sudden difficulty spike to kaizo-level traps that are nothing but trial and error. The longer it goes on, the bigger these dips and spikes in difficulty get. One level will be easy going, then it'll suddenly crank up the difficulty and drain your lives. I'm convinced map 20 wasn't meant to be beaten by a human, at least on the "secret" route. Sure, I'm weak, whatever, but I'm not gonna waste my time going for a secret level when the design of the levels directly punishes and hates me. Some segments I could mercifully find a way around (those narrow platforms in map 19 for example, you can spindash jump to a small path on the left wall), but for the ones I couldn't, it was just a matter of dying to a trap, retrying, getting past that trap, then dying to the next trap. Rinse and repeat until you can manage to brute force your way to the end.

That said, there's a lot to like for the good parts. When the maps are good, they're very fun, and visually they look pretty good as well. The cutscenes were good for a laugh or two. Bit surprised there were no emblems in this mod, though I found several places where a green grayed out emblem was hovering in place. I actually didn't mind being forced to switch between all 3 characters for different levels, though quite often when faced with kaizo-like challenges I'd wished I could choose my own character. The lack of being able to pick Amy/Fang/Metal kinda hurts too.

The mod's overall a good experience, but the levels towards the end where you're hit with beginner traps and trial and error challenges are infuriating. I think it can have its place in unlockable maps, but for main campaign levels, some of this stuff is discouraging. If the difficulty curve could be smoothed out, I think this is a pretty solid level pack.
Riolucariolu
Riolucariolu
You get to the Amy stages by beating the hard path in Map20 lol.
Would you mind DMing me which stages you experienced as especially hard or listing them in the discussion tab? I made the maps so I'm numb to the difficulty and I'd like to know which maps cause the most trouble because I've gotten the difficulty spike criticism a lot; in the 1.2 versions Map03 was quite a spike and I had hoped to correct it with this update. Also, what do you mean with beginner traps and where do you see trial and error obstacles?
Map20 of course is supposed to be hard, I only put the easy route in after criticism (and I'm glad I did). I disagree that it's Kaizo though, I think the level is hard and quite precise, but I also think I made it fair. A good amount of people seem to have beaten it, too.

Thanks for playing!
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Like the maps conceptually, especially the return of Basic Bounce. I don't think these are all that great right now though.

Eight Beat doesn't have much going on, but the trick panel pad in the center isn't all that fun to make it ever worth picking over something like Green Triangle to give a map that's close to compare. If you add some other stuff and didn't make the tricking gimmick take up so much of the track, then it could be pretty neat. Also the (seemingly) random sound effects could be removed so that the music can be better enjoyed. They didn't seem to have any rhyme or reason that was apparent and just disturbed the music unnecessarily.

Star Slalom is really laggy and probably needs some fixes to make it fun even in GP on my system. Even with that, there is very little room to drive on making the map very tough with little leeway on counterplay. This was only ran through once on GP Vicious like the other tracks so I missed out on taking advantage of shortcuts that might have helped me.

Basic Bounce might be really fun, but it probably should have normal springs or maybe moon panels instead of tricks so that pace doesn't break trying to take the small cuts. I think there were other problems too, but those could be from running this also really hard track for the first time.

[Spoiler] probably should have just been unlocked right away rather be required to beat in GP. I did learn how to play the track effectively from losing on it a couple times, but I didn't have much fun playing the same joke after the first time.

I think if the track design were improved, then this pack could seem less like a meme track pack. As it is now, the tracks are kind of just Hell maps or the equivalent of such as of right now. Besides that, I think the maps look distinct and could become iconic with improvement.
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when i tried playing, it gave me the messege of "makeviamapthings: slope vertex 0 (for linedef tag 1010) not found "
Riolucariolu
Riolucariolu
This issue has been fixed in version 1.3.2. gosas and I couldn't figure out how to delete reviews.
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good for getting emblems and can be used with mod chars
very good char, can be used with models (chars who have models)
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I always hate how l have no room for the OCs people make, but I just HAVE TO for this goober. The clean art really heightens the design
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truly the char mod of all time, truly incredible, riveting story, colorful and whimsical graphics, fun mechanic, indeed the best mod in world
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Very well done guide, but I wanna ask: does this all work on Steam Deck? I got whatever dev tools I could find and I've started working on the sprites for my own character addon, but I wanna know if the whole process is doable on Steam Deck (since that's what I've been using) so I'll know if I need to borrow a family member's windows computer to complete the development process, especially since I don't know if Kartmaker will work on Deck.
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It's cool, got through in 3 tries. Only issue that stops a five is that I don't see many varied uses of the rock, only the same pinballs. If there were things like jumping from one rock to another while it's bouncing. or dropping a rock off with momentum then getting it back, kinda like a kaizo, I'd bump this up to an easy five. Still though, it's great. enjoyed it a lot
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This is probably the simplest thing I've ever done for something relating to maps (yes, this is even easier than making a level header). Works like a dream!
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In terms of visual and audio quality, as well as the gameplay changes, it's all fantastic. Where this really struggles is the level design. Just like the original mod, this mod's level design struggles immensely with stage readability.

There are so many points in this campaign where I've just been completely lost as to what to do, the special stages have it the worst. The forest maze and lava special stages are genuinely hair-pullingly annoying. THe lava one especially forces you to make do-or-die leaps of faith or play super quickly whent he level design really is not clearly conveying what it wants you to do, or where to go. I never even figured out what the wheels you can activate were doing. THere's just no feedback to the player or any indication.

When a stage's entire gimmick is "follow the arrow on the ground" or the signposts have to actively point you in the direction of progress, that's a sign of a fundamental flaw with the level design.

Honestly, the new special stages should be scrapped entirely, I don't understand the scoring, and none of them so far have really been fun to play. Please, just give us back the simple "collect the rings" stages I beg you. I want to get my emerald and get out not spend 20 minutes in a single stage and then be kicked out because i ran out of continues.

Overall this mod is impressive, it's given me a ton of nostalgia over the original mod, but just like the original mod, frustrates the hell out of me. It's better in a lot of ways, but worse in some others.
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