Octosquid
Bember
That's not really a bug, its just for flexibility with models. Just go into your models.dat and just find the model that is too small, and adjust the numbers on the right of it.
the "3.0.0.0" is to define the model size.
What changes do you want in 2.2.14?
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the "3.0.0.0" is to define the model size.
CFir
running around at the speed of sound
invalid, this isnt sonic 1.
DylanDude
Overeager Raposa
Open it in a text editor.
oinkusdoinkus.net
Long live the thok
The game that started it all, and the Sonic game that best utilizes momentum, is what you say? If you want momentum, don't attack the game that uses it best. It goes to show how uninformed you really are on the subject. If you want your precious classic Sonic momentum, then mod it in yourself. SRB2's playstyle is perfect as is. No changes need to be made to gameplay or movesets, the controls perfectly complement the level design. Gaining speed from slopes is useless, that's why the roll exists. There is no need to fix something that isn't broken. People really do not want SRB2 to have any more identity than a 2D Sonic game in 3D, which is genuinely stupid. SRB2 invented its own iteration of classic Sonic, and it should stay that way. Hopefully now you understand what I am trying to say.
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Bro what that is so random
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I know this is old, but I really wanted to say, how is that "pointless?" There are literally levels where you can puch things to open doors and such, I don't get how that is "pointless."
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SilverVortex
True,
no it's not
the air control is very stiff, the weird acceleration curve makes the top speed feel very slow, the lack of momentum preservation and slope launch height cut makes many slopes and ramps feel useless and WORST OF ALL...that is all my personal opinion. how horrific.there are, that's true! but compared to other gimmicks in the game that do require an extra bit of visual clarity to better communicate their purpose to the player (like the conveyor belts in arid canyon), you don't...really need a pushing animation to let the player know that they're pushing something.
besides, it's only something (in the vanilla game) that appears in deep sea and azure temple, so i don't think it's very efficient to spend time making an animation for a one time gimmick for every angle for every character when you could be working on something else.
DylanDude
Overeager Raposa
This is entirely subjective, which Sonic game uses momentum the best is a matter of personal opinion, not fact. By presenting your opinion as fact and anyone who disagrees as ignorant, you don't exactly come off the way you'd probably like. Most people disagree that Sonic 1, the game with Marble Zone, Labyrinth Zone, and Scrap Brain Zone, is the one to use momentum the best.
What I think most of us want is for characters without rolling to have the ability to gain and preserve momentum. Why is it that running down a long slope has no more effect than running on flat ground? That doesn't feel good at all, and as a mapper, it limits level design potential to be unable to use slopes as a more natural way of building speed than springs.
An increasing amount of characters cannot roll, and they shouldn't have to.
It is quite broken and I'm glad to know it's getting fixed in the future. I don't want SRB2 to just be the Genesis games in 3D, but I do want it to learn more from what worked in those games while also doing its own thing. Having its own identity doesn't mean avoiding what the Genesis games got right, it means learning from those games.
But hey, if you don't like the changes 2.3 is going to make, you can always mod it back to the way it was before, right?
Ace Dragon
Member
As far as momentum goes, I tend to see myself as a "don't fix what is not broken" kind of guy. I am aware the game could use a few upgrades in this area, but we should take an incremental approach and focus only on critical areas to start.
On Youtube, there are numerous Infinity Engine demos where Sonic barely even touches the ground, and the level is nothing more than a backdrop. When you especially consider the fact that SRB2 is an offshoot of the doom engine, I do not think it would be fair to mappers if they (in the future) would spend months crafting a large, beautiful environment to traverse only to see speedrunners skip everything and hitting the end sign in under a minute.
On Youtube, there are numerous Infinity Engine demos where Sonic barely even touches the ground, and the level is nothing more than a backdrop. When you especially consider the fact that SRB2 is an offshoot of the doom engine, I do not think it would be fair to mappers if they (in the future) would spend months crafting a large, beautiful environment to traverse only to see speedrunners skip everything and hitting the end sign in under a minute.
lol guy
IDK how to change the word 'member' still :)
luigi budd
luigi butt
I think the ability to play multiple music tracks at once would be nice. Adaptive music in SRB2 similar to that of like, Pikmin, sounds sick.
CFir
running around at the speed of sound
yoo, i didnt know you had momentum while running in sonic 1 (im not counting spinning because srb2 has momentum for that)
A_3TO_GAS_MAN*(RUS)*
Very likes Tea, Video Games, and I guess Robots.
in first foot fix
new amy's moveset of cousre!
and this:
oh i'll forgot software palette!
like in gzdoom!
new amy's moveset of cousre!
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oh i'll forgot software palette!
like in gzdoom!
oinkusdoinkus.net
Long live the thok
Is it me, or is the Sonic sprite identicle?
A_3TO_GAS_MAN*(RUS)*
Very likes Tea, Video Games, and I guess Robots.
you need new sonic's sprite?
time gear
Eternity in an hour
Not quite. The two are very similar, but the new sprite has been re-shaded and the shoes were tweaked. Overall, the differences are subtle at a glance, and yet somewhat extensive once you do notice them.
27cels
Member
It's literally been 4 years since 2.2 released and the average time It takes for a major update to release Is 5 yearsWait, they are already making 2.3?
oinkusdoinkus.net
Long live the thok
I see the shading, but I don't see the shoes. What is changed exactly?
SilverVortex
True,
the white stripes on the shoes are touched up a little bit, most noticeable on sonic's left shoe. it's a pretty small detail, though, so i don't blame you for not seeing it immediately.
