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And why would it? Art was defined long before AI became a reality. Authorship by someone even if not the one who came up with the idea was a given, and so it would have been a "it goes without saying" type deal when wording it. You could also just as easily go searching for other definitions; there's no one source on how art is defined that's more "official" than all the others, and what is and isn't art is something that's been hard to put into words for as long as there has been art. All definitions are merely the definer's best attempts at putting to words what art is in their view.But because of circumstances: the definition of art does not say that you specifically need to create the art.
You can also argue that it does not. It doesn't really take any effort to just pick some words at random and see what it gets you, or even to use another AI to generate a prompt for you to then put into the image generation AI. Even if you're not, you don't need to be especially creative to just put in the prompt for something you like and hope for a result that closely enough resembles what you had in mind.It DOES say “human creative skill and imagination” however, and you can argue that it takes creative skill and imagination to create a prompt for the AI to generate the goods for you.
More to the point, art is once again the word we use to describe the creation, not the initial concept. It's something made to be shared with others, or even just for the author to reflect back on in the future. Either way, art is something tangible that is meant to be observed.
This is a false equivalence. SRB2's community is considered an art community because it is a community of people who create and discuss art. AI images are just algorithmically generated images. The SRB2 community being considered an art community in no way, shape, or form requires us to also consider AI images as art.I'm just saying, if srb2 can technically be considered a art community, then AI art can technically be considered art.
Well, you do, but in regards to the current conversation not so much. Which loops back around to my previous point amounting to how the two things aren't mutually inclusive to each other. They are two completely unrelated concepts, so "A is true, therefore B must also be true" doesn't really apply here.But you don't see people going around saying that it is, do you?
And these two things aren't mutually exclusive. Just because general discussion is allowed in the community doesn't mean it's not an art community. It just means that it's also a general community in addition to being an art community. It would also be rather silly to suggest that art is not the main focal point the community is based around. We are all here due to our mutual connection of being Sonic fans who enjoy SRB2 after all.You missed my point. This community isn't an art community, calling it that is disregarding all the code done for addons.
This is a general community, it's for everyone. Calling it an art community is just incorrect, even if the community does have artists and musicians.
Only in the sense that a commissioner would give input to the artist they are commissioning to create art for them. Ultimately even if you continue to make the AI generate over and over again until it checks all the boxes you are trying to get checked, you don't actually have full creative freedom as to how the output image turns out. Eventually you just have to settle for "close enough". You still haven't actually created anything since the AI is doing all the work, and there's always going to be all kinds of errors and inaccuracies with the output that are outside of your control that prevent it from being a direct translation of your creative intentions. It's not quite the same thing as you taking a thought and turning it into something tangible.Yes, you are correct. What I meant to say was that when said imagination is turned into art, even if the person who imagined it isn't the artist, that's when it's art. Thinking out the prompt itself doesn't qualify as art, when you put it into the AI.. it counts as art (with a heavy asterik). I know the AI doesn't have a creative thought or process but wouldn't us putting in the prompt or correcting it if it made any mistakes count as us being the creative input the AI lacks?
Again though, you can take these output images and do something with them. Redraw them, or use them as inspiration to create a new image or a 3D model or etc. There's nothing stopping you from taking these output images and transforming them into art, they just aren't art by themselves.
Commissioning someone to create art isn't art. It's commissioning. The image they create is, because they are a human being with thoughts and intentions and creative liberties they can take. Even with something as little as the exact facial expression on a character or the exact way they depict wind blowing or etc. allows them to put their own little personal mark on their work. This is not the same thing as putting a prompt into an AI and getting a generated output for reasons we've repeated ad nausium at this point. Once again, "A is true therefore B is true" does not apply here.When we take the definition of art rationally and don't apply it literally, commissiong someone or generating images with AI isn't art.