PupDaNi
Hey-Hey-Hey-MOTHERFU-
Actually you just derailed for a second there in that first spolier.
Edit: I just got back to this thread please don't yeet me :(
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Adventure Sonic (SA-Sonic) Progress
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Edit: I just got back to this thread please don't yeet me :(
Metalblue1991
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He probably will, hope he gets his boost from the final boss of adventure 1
Golden Shine
Speeding Gleam
SMS IS based of Adventure Sonic's design. Unless you mean SA-Sonic's speed, in which case...you haven't seen SMS' real speed. ;)
The Force Shield's stop might've been useful if vanilla Sonic could use it after a speed thok. But SA-Sonic has incredible control over his speed and a ton of safeguards, so this is extra pointless to him regardless. But uhhh....accurate to SA1, I guess??
Of course. There's plenty of custom powers & gfx to look forward to. I desperately needed to hold myself back from overdoing effects, but Super Sonic has no such shackles.
Ye.
Thankfully for you SA2 wants a piece of this pie.
Yeah, it's instant from SA2 onwards. SRB2 has rings placed everywhere with no regard for this ability's existence, so that makes the Lightdash simultaneously useless and occasionally a bit broken if the player can spam it. Since SA-Sonic's has to charge, hopefully the buffs we gave it to compensate keep it moderately useful outside of a few specific mods.
Personally, I can say I'm no fan of characters with ring stealing powers in netgames...I welcome the charging.
Nah, it's ok. Relish in it's absolute uselessness.
Something Metalwario64's been critical about since the early stages of development was SA-Sonic's (standard) air dash. I'm crazy over speed so it hurts to lower those sweet velocity numbers, but Metal flung himself into the abyss alot. A common issue with players not already an "SRB2 veteran".
Looking closely at Adventure 2's air dash, Sonic's in full control even mid-airdash. Even if you initially thokked forwards, he can still redirect the thok mid-animation up to a complete U-turn. We implemented this behavior too.
This only affects SIMPLE control mode. It's very jarring in STANDARD/STRAFE to suddenly get half a second of full analog control.
Neon_hyperdrive
Don’t run away i won’t hurt you
now i want too see sms and adventure sonic in a race nowSMS IS based of Adventure Sonic's design. Unless you mean SA-Sonic's speed, in which case...you haven't seen SMS' real speed. ;)
The Force Shield's stop might've been useful if vanilla Sonic could use it after a speed thok. But SA-Sonic has incredible control over his speed and a ton of safeguards, so this is extra pointless to him regardless. But uhhh....accurate to SA1, I guess??
Of course. There's plenty of custom powers & gfx to look forward to. I desperately needed to hold myself back from overdoing effects, but Super Sonic has no such shackles.
Ye.Won't be as big a focus as it is for base Sonic, though! It's mainly there so Super Sonic never feels like a downgrade.
Thankfully for you SA2 wants a piece of this pie.
Yeah, it's instant from SA2 onwards. SRB2 has rings placed everywhere with no regard for this ability's existence, so that makes the Lightdash simultaneously useless and occasionally a bit broken if the player can spam it. Since SA-Sonic's has to charge, hopefully the buffs we gave it to compensate keep it moderately useful outside of a few specific mods.
Personally, I can say I'm no fan of characters with ring stealing powers in netgames...I welcome the charging.
Nah, it's ok. Relish in it's absolute uselessness.
Something Metalwario64's been critical about since the early stages of development was SA-Sonic's (standard) air dash. I'm crazy over speed so it hurts to lower those sweet velocity numbers, but Metal flung himself into the abyss alot. A common issue with players not already an "SRB2 veteran".
Looking closely at Adventure 2's air dash, Sonic's in full control even mid-airdash. Even if you initially thokked forwards, he can still redirect the thok mid-animation up to a complete U-turn. We implemented this behavior too.
This only affects SIMPLE control mode. It's very jarring in STANDARD/STRAFE to suddenly get half a second of full analog control.
Metalblue1991
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Eh, sms is winning if he know what hes doing
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Sa sonic probably
Dat Hedgehog Boi
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Yeah the charged light speed dash likes a horrible idea. There’s literally no point of the light speed dash in srb2 other than quickly collecting rings. So if slow it down it makes it utterly useless. Also impossible to take midair light speed dash paths
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There’s almost no reason to use it at this point
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I hope adventure sonic can rail grind. If modern sonic can so should sa sonic. It could open more possibilities for adventure style levels. Kinda like greenflower x for modern sonci
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Chezi
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Not true. It’s primary use is to travel a certain distance quickly.
He isn’t slowing down the actual move, he’s just charging it because it now has two uses. It also makes it function different from the reusable light speed dash that comes from Modern Sonic
Why_bother
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you see, the actual reason is because if he didn't have the spindash as super sonic, he couldn't go through small holes.Ye.Won't be as big a focus as it is for base Sonic, though! It's mainly there so Super Sonic never feels like a downgrade
ロースト イカ
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Give SMS Speed shoes at the start, you know to make it more fair for SMS of course!
Oh speaking of Speeds shoes, does SA Sonic have Custom Speed shoes and invincibility themes?
Also Voice clips, is he using SA1's? Or SA2's? Or maybe mix of both?
I have high hopes for those effects if SMS is anything to go by, let's just hope it won't melt computers.Of course. There's plenty of custom powers & gfx to look forward to. I desperately needed to hold myself back from overdoing effects, but Super Sonic has no such shackles.
Looking forward to seeing it, because charging sounds like a big pace breaker, so it being buffed to make up for that is intriguing.
jimbojimbob
why
As someone who plays SRB2 in simple mode, I have a good feeling that this is going to help prevent me accidentally falling into the ether. However...Something Metalwario64's been critical about since the early stages of development was SA-Sonic's (standard) air dash. I'm crazy over speed so it hurts to lower those sweet velocity numbers, but Metal flung himself into the abyss alot. A common issue with players not already an "SRB2 veteran".
Looking closely at Adventure 2's air dash, Sonic's in full control even mid-airdash. Even if you initially thokked forwards, he can still redirect the thok mid-animation up to a complete U-turn. We implemented this behavior too.
This only affects SIMPLE control mode. It's very jarring in STANDARD/STRAFE to suddenly get half a second of full analog control.
I'm admittedly a bit mixed on this. On one hand, it was made instant in SA2 and onward to prevent from having to break the flow. On the other hand, I'm curious as to the buffs you've given him in order to compensate for having to wait.
super sonic running
still lazy super sonic on SRB2Net :)
i hope someone makes the dreamcast and DX model for this when this is finally done
PupDaNi
Hey-Hey-Hey-MOTHERFU-
Is that a new emerald hud? You know the one for how many emeralds you currently have?SMS IS based of Adventure Sonic's design. Unless you mean SA-Sonic's speed, in which case...you haven't seen SMS' real speed. ;)
The Force Shield's stop might've been useful if vanilla Sonic could use it after a speed thok. But SA-Sonic has incredible control over his speed and a ton of safeguards, so this is extra pointless to him regardless. But uhhh....accurate to SA1, I guess??
Of course. There's plenty of custom powers & gfx to look forward to. I desperately needed to hold myself back from overdoing effects, but Super Sonic has no such shackles.
Ye.Won't be as big a focus as it is for base Sonic, though! It's mainly there so Super Sonic never feels like a downgrade.
Thankfully for you SA2 wants a piece of this pie.
Yeah, it's instant from SA2 onwards. SRB2 has rings placed everywhere with no regard for this ability's existence, so that makes the Lightdash simultaneously useless and occasionally a bit broken if the player can spam it. Since SA-Sonic's has to charge, hopefully the buffs we gave it to compensate keep it moderately useful outside of a few specific mods.
Personally, I can say I'm no fan of characters with ring stealing powers in netgames...I welcome the charging.
Nah, it's ok. Relish in it's absolute uselessness.
Something Metalwario64's been critical about since the early stages of development was SA-Sonic's (standard) air dash. I'm crazy over speed so it hurts to lower those sweet velocity numbers, but Metal flung himself into the abyss alot. A common issue with players not already an "SRB2 veteran".
Looking closely at Adventure 2's air dash, Sonic's in full control even mid-airdash. Even if you initially thokked forwards, he can still redirect the thok mid-animation up to a complete U-turn. We implemented this behavior too.
This only affects SIMPLE control mode. It's very jarring in STANDARD/STRAFE to suddenly get half a second of full analog control.
Golden Shine
Speeding Gleam
I buffed the Lightdash itself to make up for charge-time, you'll see in what way soon enough.
Yes. They use custom slots, so none of SA-Sonic's music override vanilla themes. The music slots are called O_YUSUPR, O_YUCLR, O_YUSHOE, and O_YUINV.
Whatever seems fitting from any of Ryan Drummond clips.(avoiding GBA-crunched clips!) Frequency for voice clips is about as often as SA1.
I'm better at optimization than I once was, and SA-Sonic doesn't really have ultrafancy CPU-eating chain-explosions and lightbeams. There IS 1 Super Sonic effect that has me mildly concerned for minor FPS drops, but it's easily adjustable after testers with crappy PCs confirm it for me. (It doesn't drop FPS for me, but I can fight wars in die.pk3 without drops, so my experience doesn't say much.)
With how slidey SA-Sonic's spindash charge is, and a buff to both the charge and moves themselves, I'm sure I hit the sweet spot.
Same. Outside of required sections it was useless in SA1. SRB2 has no required Lightdashes, so brainlessly spamming it on every tiny ring cluster is the status quo here normally. This buff was practically mandatory for a charged version.
Sorry, that's from the hangout mod I was using. We're not trying to pack in a full SRB2-to-Adventure conversion, just sticking to a lightweight character mod for the time being!
So....air braking. Let go off the stick mid-jump and Sonic gradually comes to a halt like in Adventure. It's similar to SRB2's autobrake, but for jumping. I'll make sure players can turn this off or tweak it, since it's very different from vanilla SRB2 behavior. Neither this nor SA-Sonic's natural air drag will affect spring-launches.
Precise jumps like this are easy to land even from massive distance leaps. Controls/physics stuff is hard to show off in GIFs...
Neon_hyperdrive
Don’t run away i won’t hurt you
im not shocked to see this mod gets released in xmas 2021 or heck maybe before xmas 2021I buffed the Lightdash itself to make up for charge-time, you'll see in what way soon enough.
Yes. They use custom slots, so none of SA-Sonic's music override vanilla themes. The music slots are called O_YUSUPR, O_YUCLR, O_YUSHOE, and O_YUINV.
Whatever seems fitting from any of Ryan Drummond clips.(avoiding GBA-crunched clips!) Frequency for voice clips is about as often as SA1.
I'm better at optimization than I once was, and SA-Sonic doesn't really have ultrafancy CPU-eating chain-explosions and lightbeams. There IS 1 Super Sonic effect that has me mildly concerned for minor FPS drops, but it's easily adjustable after testers with crappy PCs confirm it for me. (It doesn't drop FPS for me, but I can fight wars in die.pk3 without drops, so my experience doesn't say much.)
With how slidey SA-Sonic's spindash charge is, and a buff to both the charge and moves themselves, I'm sure I hit the sweet spot.
Same. Outside of required sections it was useless in SA1. SRB2 has no required Lightdashes, so brainlessly spamming it on every tiny ring cluster is the status quo here normally. This buff was practically mandatory for a charged version.
Sorry, that's from the hangout mod I was using. We're not trying to pack in a full SRB2-to-Adventure conversion, just sticking to a lightweight character mod for the time being!
So....air braking. Let go off the stick mid-jump and Sonic gradually comes to a halt like in Adventure. It's similar to SRB2's autobrake, but for jumping. I'll make sure players can turn this off or tweak it, since it's very different from vanilla SRB2 behavior. Neither this nor SA-Sonic's natural air drag will affect spring-launches.
Precise jumps like this are easy to land even from massive distance leaps. Controls/physics stuff is hard to show off in GIFs...
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What about a feature that lets you use Juni'chi's Voice Clips from the games? Just as a quality of life feature? Nice to know voices will be a feature.
PupDaNi
Hey-Hey-Hey-MOTHERFU-
Oh okI buffed the Lightdash itself to make up for charge-time, you'll see in what way soon enough.
Yes. They use custom slots, so none of SA-Sonic's music override vanilla themes. The music slots are called O_YUSUPR, O_YUCLR, O_YUSHOE, and O_YUINV.
Whatever seems fitting from any of Ryan Drummond clips.(avoiding GBA-crunched clips!) Frequency for voice clips is about as often as SA1.
I'm better at optimization than I once was, and SA-Sonic doesn't really have ultrafancy CPU-eating chain-explosions and lightbeams. There IS 1 Super Sonic effect that has me mildly concerned for minor FPS drops, but it's easily adjustable after testers with crappy PCs confirm it for me. (It doesn't drop FPS for me, but I can fight wars in die.pk3 without drops, so my experience doesn't say much.)
With how slidey SA-Sonic's spindash charge is, and a buff to both the charge and moves themselves, I'm sure I hit the sweet spot.
Same. Outside of required sections it was useless in SA1. SRB2 has no required Lightdashes, so brainlessly spamming it on every tiny ring cluster is the status quo here normally. This buff was practically mandatory for a charged version.
Sorry, that's from the hangout mod I was using. We're not trying to pack in a full SRB2-to-Adventure conversion, just sticking to a lightweight character mod for the time being!
So....air braking. Let go off the stick mid-jump and Sonic gradually comes to a halt like in Adventure. It's similar to SRB2's autobrake, but for jumping. I'll make sure players can turn this off or tweak it, since it's very different from vanilla SRB2 behavior. Neither this nor SA-Sonic's natural air drag will affect spring-launches.
Precise jumps like this are easy to land even from massive distance leaps. Controls/physics stuff is hard to show off in GIFs...
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