[Open Assets] SRB2 : Project Junio 2

[malom]

Since I deleted the hub and the progression would be done in a classic way, I didn't know what to do with the 85 emblems, very clearly there aren't enough bonus to unlock levels to justify their existence, so I had to delete them all except for the time and ring emblem.
hard decision after spending so much time building such big levels

If you don't mind me asking, why did the in-stage emblems get removed if the emblem progression system had to go? I understand that some people weren't fans of the progression system, but I don't think the in-stage emblems had to be axed too. They give more incentive to explore the stages, reinforcing the idea that Sonic isn't just about speed: it also rewards exploration.

 

[FlashbackGuy]

I think keeping them would be a good idea to further incentivize exploration, as well as reward the people that took their time to run around finding everything.
It’s ultimately up to you though. This is just something to think about. Maybe the extra emblems could unlock prototype stages if they exist?

 

[malom]

I think keeping them would be a good idea to further incentivize exploration, as well as reward the people that took their time to run around finding everything.
It’s ultimately up to you though. This is just something to think about. Maybe the extra emblems could unlock prototype stages if they exist?

I could have, but there would be no reward at the end. I already used the only prototype level I had
It makes me sad but oh well.

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At this point I think it's the last update I don't want to add any levels maybe

 

[FlashbackGuy]

I’d appreciate keeping the field emblems merely for the satisfaction I get for collecting them.

 

[malom]

I'm as disappointed as you are, but it has to go

 

[FlashbackGuy]

That’s fair. At least v1 is still available to play.

 

[Captain France]

A little sad to see the hub version gone with the creation of the SRB2 Normie version, but as an SRB2 Normie I must admit that I like this better. >>

The field emblems could still totally stick around, not only would they be an alternative to speedrun and ring grinding for people who prefer it, but having more emblems than unlockables certainly isn't a bad thing.
Honestly I prefer it, it keeps that "Oh cool, an emblem" moment without the "where the **** is that **** emblem?!" moments.

But either way I'm totally gonna grind out those speedrun emblems to reunlock those great secret levels.
And I suppose I should update my review.

In a bit I'm still having fun replaying the main campaign as different characters. >>
--edit
Also a slight bug report.
I see stuff like this and a few floor sections sticking out in a few places. It seems to just be a visual bug but you might want to double check that.
--second edit: Rail spike is still there with no other mods loaded. Also wow I need to check my modlist for performance issues. Much more stable framerate.

 

[baltosaa]

I'm not one to post online anymore, ever, but it seems as though you've let people affect what you wanted to go for here in a negative light?

You shouldn't do that. If you intended for this to be a big emblem hunt extravaganza that's what it ought to be. Who cares if people don't like it? It's what you set out to create and thats what matters most. Though you mention lack of reward being apart of it, if I understood correctly. But still. Create what YOU want to create. (but on the other hand, at least the older options are still present.)

Anyways, really cool level pack. It's great to see more slopey/momentum based level design cropping up in SRB2. And as someone who loves SRB2, getting new stuff to play with is a treat.

 

[StarryRB2]

Because you are playing on 2.2.15 this mod is made for 2.2.13.

It works fine for me even though I'm using 2.2.15

 

[Captain France]

It works fine for me even though I'm using 2.2.15

Yeah this was several mod updates ago, they fixed that.

 

[Garrean]

Yeah, I wouldn't have axed emblems entirely. There's still value in having them around, just inherently. It gives people a reason to go back and replay the stages, rather than just going through them once and never touching them again. Since it doesn't affect anything, there's no harm in leaving them in for the people who liked them. And for the people who didn't, they can just ignore them.

But honestly? I liked the emblem progression, and I find it to be a bit of a shame you decided to just discard it entirely. I understand there were gripes with them, but that didn't mean it had to go full stop. Personally, what I would've done is:
- Add emblem radar to make it easier to find emblems.
- Slash emblem requirements so that you need, maybe about 1/3 to unlock all the levels. That seems like a good balance without being too much of a grind. The rest of the 2/3rds can just be for fun.
- And finally, if you didn't feel like revamping the hub, you could change the unlock messages from just saying "new level", to actually telling you what level you unlocked + their location in the hub, so people don't have trouble finding them.

I think those would've been good changes to make without totally compromising the original progression flow of the pack. Ultimately though, it's up to you, and if you genuinely felt like removing it, that's your prerogative. Just keep in mind, you don't have to completely give into everything people say about your mod. It's still your creation, and you should to try and balance what you want it to be, with what other people are saying it should be.