Why do people keep saying they hate the SRB2 community?

[Octosquid]

I've heard on numerous occasions people saying they hate the SRB2 community.
I've mostly only seen people who've been nice, and even with the last two controversies being wrapped up, people are still saying this.
Why? ironically most of the people who are being mean seem to be the same ones saying this,
When they say this, they don't provide any proof of this community being bad.
There are some people who are mean without saying this, but this is the internet, what do you expect.

I just fail to see how this community is bad beyond basic internet stuff.

 

[InfernoMelon]

I've heard on numerous occasions people saying they hate the SRB2 community.
I've mostly only seen people who've been nice, and even with the last two controversies being wrapped up, people are still saying this.
Why? ironically most of the people who are being mean seem to be the same ones saying this,
When they say this, they don't provide any proof of this community being bad.
There are some people who are mean without saying this, but this is the internet, what do you expect.

I just fail to see how this community is bad beyond basic internet stuff.

I feel called out on this one LMAO
but for real tho, the reason why (or my personal reason why) people hate the SRB2 community is mainly because the constant pointless controversies/dramas this community has like "insert drama here" blah, blah, something and honestly, y'all did this to yourself by how y'all be acting nowadays (like deadass, who tf celebrates someone leaving the community, that's so childish and dumb lol) and again, I WOULD go in more detail WHY but knowing the replies this thread will get and I will get, I prefer not to go in

 

[Octosquid]

but for real tho, the reason why (or my personal reason why) people hate the SRB2 community is mainly because the constant pointless controversies/dramas

The only current controversies I've heard of are the two ones listed in the original post, I don't really get the constant part.

(like deadass, who tf celebrates someone leaving the community, that's so childish and dumb lol)

It's because that person has harassed the staff on multiple occasions without a clear reason, he has valid points, but all of those are buried under calling the devs "stupid" and other insults. (I do think his best video was the double feature that included my map)

 

[InfernoMelon]

The only current controversies I've heard of are the two ones listed in the original post, I don't really get the constant part.

Well, those are CONTROVERSIES (which is different from drama) but there's plenty of dramas like...

1. Thok getting removed
2. SRB2 Workshop and Ports (dumb)
3. That REDACTED thing also kinda counts but that's over
4. The devs not listening to actual criticism to some changes they are making

There's more but this list is based on my personal experiences

It's because that person has harassed the staff on multiple occasions without a clear reason, he has valid points, but all of those are buried under calling the devs "stupid" and other insults. (I do think his best video was the double feature that included my map)

Yeah, yeah, that heard that excuse multiple times, yeah, it's valid btw but still y'all kinda harassed him to leaving with that thread, so y'all are NOT excuse from criticism like
just

and move on pls (but whatever, y'all are not going to listen and prob bring him up constantly like he's the next mystic or something to mock him)

 

[Octosquid]

1. Thok getting removed
2. SRB2 Workshop and Ports (dumb)
3. That REDACTED thing also kinda counts but that's over
4. The devs not listening to actual criticism to some changes they are making

1. When was the last time there was drama over the thok getting removed? I haven't heard that in a while.
2. That's over already due to the new rules
3. I haven't heard about that, but you said it's already over
4. When did that happen?

Most of these already over

Yeah, yeah, that heard that excuse multiple times, yeah, it's valid btw but still y'all kinda harassed him to leaving with that thread, so y'all are NOT excuse from criticism like

He didn't really leave the MB, he got banned and then decided to leave because he thought this community sucked, (although he didn't provide any evidence of that, which is why I'm asking)
He didn't really seem to understand at that point in time that if you aren't nice to people, they aren't too inclined to be nice to you.

just View attachment 122913 and move on pls (but whatever, y'all are not going to listen and prob bring him up constantly like he's the next mystic or something to mock him)

I 100% agree with this.
I hope that he can get on with his Youtube career without people talking about SRB2 in the comment section.

Anyways, this thread is not about Sandwichface, that ship has sailed, so let's stay on topic.

 

[time gear]

1. Thok getting removed

Even as a controversy, how does this contribute to your reasoning for people saying the SRB2 community is bad? Is it that STJr is somehow bad for removing it, or is it the community is somehow bad for vocally going against it? It's technically a controversy in that there's a lot of people with strong opinions on the matter and occasionally this results in butting heads, but you'll find stuff like that in literally any online community, especially when anything starts to change.

4. The devs not listening to actual criticism to some changes they are making

I've not seen any evidence of STJr outright blocking off criticism. They might not take the advice of everyone who gives them criticism, but that's completely normal and acceptable. The point of criticism isn't to make demands and the person getting criticized needs to obey. The point of criticism is to provide feedback. Even in cases such as the thok being replaced in Sonic's moveset in which the community as a whole is strongly against the change, STJr is well within their rights as the devs of the game to go forward with the decision anyway, and I guarantee you that there are many other devs for many other games who would and have in the past made similar risks in their endeavor to make their game the best it can be. Make no mistake, popularity is not the same thing as quality, and sometimes people need to actually experience an alternative before they realize they like it more. If in the end it turns out STJr does make a change for the worse however, they have made it clear in the past that they are not afraid to reverse those changes.

And again, this just seems more like ranting about the devs rather than any evidence of the community being bad.

like deadass, who tf celebrates someone leaving the community, that's so childish and dumb lol

The vast majority of people in the community that I've seen aren't showing this sentiment in the slightest, only concern for his mental well being and relief that the situation with him is finally over. Seems like a "making a mountain out of a mole hill" situation to me.

 

[InfernoMelon]

1. When was the last time there was drama over the thok getting removed? I haven't heard that in a while.
2. That's over already due to the new rules
3. I haven't heard about that, but you said it's already over
4. When did that happen?

1. I mean, just because you personally haven't about it, doesn't mean it's not still happening
4. the devs thing is mainly with the thok thing, them changing the thok and not listening to criticism of adding an option to 2.3 keep it, their only excuse to it is "just mod it in" and prob the Ring Racers devs (but they actually started to listen to criticism and change some things, so they cool now lol)

He didn't really leave the MB, he got banned and then decided to leave because he thought this community sucked, (although he didn't provide any evidence of that, which is why I'm asking)
He didn't really seem to understand at that point in time that if you aren't nice to people, they aren't too inclined to be nice to you.

Tbh, being banned from MB is the same as leaving the community like being banned is basically just an "fuck off, we don't want you here" plus, he kinda DID had some points about why the community sucks (y'all just ignore it because "He'S tOo MeAn To ThE sTaFf") also kinda agree with that last line

I 100% agree with this.
I hope that he can get on with his Youtube career without people talking about SRB2 in the comment section.

Anyways, this thread is not about Sandwichface, that ship has sailed, so let's stay on topic.

I'm glad that someone actually agree with this take lmao

 

[Dylan Sahr]

My reason is, It's because of annoying little kids always asking for an addon. Then they don't get their way, It's just down right awful to be there.

 

[InfernoMelon]

Even as a controversy, how does this contribute to your reasoning for people saying the SRB2 community is bad? Is it that STJr is somehow bad for removing it, or is it the community is somehow bad for vocally going against it? It's technically a controversy in that there's a lot of people with strong opinions on the matter and occasionally this results in butting heads, but you'll find stuff like that in literally any online community, especially when anything starts to change.

PLS, don't reply to me, I really really don't want to deal with you again and yeah, it's an thread I KNOW
but still

and leave out of this
BUT, I will still reply because that will go against my stands on online discussion

1. I never said the thok thing was why I hate the community lol, all I said was it was drama (which it is btw)

I've not seen any evidence of STJr outright blocking off criticism. They might not take the advice of everyone who gives them criticism, but that's completely normal and acceptable. The point of criticism isn't to make demands and the person getting criticized needs to obey. The point of criticism is to provide feedback. Even in cases such as the thok being replaced in Sonic's moveset in which the community as a whole is strongly against the change, STJr is well within their rights as the devs of the game to go forward with the decision anyway, and I guarantee you that there are many other devs for many other games who would and have in the past made similar risks in their endeavor to make their game the best it can be. Make no mistake, popularity is not the same thing as quality, and sometimes people need to actually experience an alternative before they realize they like it more. If in the end it turns out STJr does make a change for the worse however, they have made it clear in the past that they are not afraid to reverse those changes.

And again, this just seems more like ranting about the devs rather than any evidence of the community being bad.

2. the devs thing was mainly about the thok thing/the devs not understanding about this (blah, blah, there's an certain video about the thok, that kinda haves my thoughts on why I said this in the first place)

The vast majority of people in the community that I've seen aren't showing this sentiment in the slightest, only concern for his mental well being and relief that the situation with him is finally over. Seems like a "making a mountain out of a mole hill" situation to me.

Just because about an majority doesn't do it, doesn't mean you can excuse the people who actually doing it like nobody was forcing y'all to interact him but y'all did and here we are now.

 

[SP Moves Enjoyer]

I was pretty neutral on this community


Up until Ring Racers came out.

 

[ClusterGuy!!]

Sheesh everyone is tearing each other apart

 

[Octosquid]

1. I mean, just because you personally haven't about it, doesn't mean it's not still happening

I won't doubt that it's happening, but give me a recent example of thok discourse

 

[time gear]

PLS, don't reply to me, I really really don't want to deal with you again and yeah, it's an thread I KNOW

I'm well within my rights to reply to you. Just because you don't like me for some reason doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to reply to you when I have a viewpoint to share. If anything, you're being very rude in trying to shush me.

2. the devs thing was mainly about the thok thing/the devs not understanding about this

Do you have any evidence of the devs not understanding the thok situation? If anything, they're the ones who understand it the most out of anyone. Not only are they the devs of the game, but they've had people blasting their opinions in their ears over it for quite some time now, and even if they don't always reply they're certainly paying attention.

Just because about an majority doesn't do it, doesn't mean you can excuse the people who actually doing it like nobody was forcing y'all to interact him but y'all did and here we are now.

I didn't excuse anything. My point is that you're making a big stink about something that in a large sense isn't even happening. This is a thread about people talking about the community being bad. If only a few people here and there are acting a certain way, that's a them problem, not a problem with the community.

 

[InfernoMelon]

I won't doubt that it's happening, but give me a recent example of thok discourse

Hahaha, you got me, there is none (right now that I can think of)

 

[SP Moves Enjoyer]

Honestly, that still doesn't change the fact that they are going to change it regardless of if people want it or not, and using "just mod it in lol" as an excuse is pretty cringe.

 

[InfernoMelon]

I'm well within my rights to reply to you. Just because you don't like me for some reason doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to reply to you when I have a viewpoint to share. If anything, you're being very rude in trying to shush me.

I'm telling you to this because you are actually physically harming to talk to, so I'm just going to ignore you

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Honestly, that still doesn't change the fact that they are going to change it regardless of if people want it or not, and using "just mod it in lol" as an excuse is pretty cringe.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYIN

 

[Octosquid]

plus, he kinda DID had some points about why the community sucks (y'all just ignore it because "He'S tOo MeAn To ThE sTaFf")

What points did he have about the community being bad?

 

[InfernoMelon]

What points did he have about the community being bad?

Prob go watch his videos about that also you said "Anyways, this thread is not about Sandwichface, that ship has sailed, so let's stay on topic."

 

[SP Moves Enjoyer]

What points did he have about the community being bad?

The fact that the reusability system exists, for one

It's pointless, and the fact that it exists AT ALL makes this community feel less like a community

 

[Inazuma]

The Sonic Robo Blast 2 Community has existed for well over two decades now. It has a storied history with many different people from all walks of life coming in and out of it. The community has existed for as long as it has because of the good will that its more prominent members have shared in hopes to plant the seeds for even greater community creations later.

Unfortunately, this also means we get a ton of bad eggs. People that misunderstood or completely fabricate things in hopes of stirring trouble or just spiting people that they do not like. With the advent of Version 2.2 of Sonic Robo Blast 2 came a massive boom in popularity for the game. Tons of new faces appeared which brought along new and blissfully unaware perspective. So when a particular Bad Egg appears to spread misinformation, a lot of these new community members would inevitably hear these things and take the lies as fact. Some do turn around after learning the truth but unfortunately there will always be those who will stay stuck to their ways only listening to one perspective.

Not everyone hates the SRB2 Community. You're just getting exposed to the vocal minority that does.