What is with you guys with recolor wads?

[sonic260]

Okay people make recolor wads of their own character. You shouldn't have to make such a big issue about them. People can make their own wads without you having to say something bad about it. If you don't like recolors, ignore them, don't try and make the person feel bad because they make a recolor. It's just them starting their imagination. It's their choice if they wan't their character to be a recolor, not yours.

 

[Sniperific]

Well said.

 

[Luminous]

It's our choice if we think we should have people rip off of lame ideas. And we voted no. Seriously, why does every character have to be a grey Sonic that uses lightning with rainbow spikes? Why not just a short furry guy with feet and hands?

 

[Sniperific]

Thanks for the idea dark fox =P

 

[SonicTheDalek]

Because most recolours are not even original, I mean I don't know how many friggin' official or semi-official recolours there are (I know of three though, Shadow, Silver and the Classic-styled Amy), but there's also like OVER 9000 unofficial ones. Team Rebellion are technically recolours, but a least they're a lot better than most of the crap you see on the forums since they're edited from standard enemies rather than badly edited from Sonic for example.

 

[Monster Iestyn]

I'm sorry, but you'll have to cope with not making recolour WADs. There's even a rule about it.

 

[Sniperific]

Team Rebellion are technically recolours, but a least they're a lot better than most of the crap you see on the forums since they're edited from standard enemies rather than badly edited from Sonic for example.

The reason why your recolors are so good is because you actualy put detail into them rather than a simple change of color.

 

[Mystic]

Because they suck. Seriously.

While we're willing to tolerate recolors that actually have some production values (Senku's WADs at least have some effort put into them), recolors are unoriginal and honestly completely uninteresting. They also require very little effort to come up with and make, so we used to get flooded with a ton of horrible, low-quality WADs with no redeeming value. Personally, I really couldn't care less about your fan character with its unbelievable back story. I return to this classic image for reference:

There is not a single recolor that wouldn't be more interesting with some originality. Adding clothing is not originality. Adding Amy's hair tuft is not originality. Fan characters have been uninteresting for years and are only useful for giving yourself an avatar on generic Sonic forums. If you feel the dire need to create a character WAD, either make a character from another game, make an ORIGINAL character that's not a sprite edit, or simply don't edit the sprites at all and simply mess with the SOC.

Finally, I refer to the forum rules where we spell out what I just said in less detail:

Recolors, or edited versions of the official character sprites, are extremely disliked. Making fan characters or bad edits of official characters is almost always bad, and has a great lack of creativity. Don't make them, and if you do, don't release them. People just don't like them.

 

[SonicTheDalek]

The reason why your recolors are so good is because you actualy put detail into them rather than a simple change of color.

And that's because I'm smart. ^_^

Seriously, there really are not that many users who are actually intelligent anymore, they're mostly all Big the Cat wannabes nowadays. Ugh.

 

[Rob]

Here are your reasons.

1) No one has ever made a good recolored character, save Senku. And even then, he did a tremendous amount of work to get them where they are. No one else has done it.

2) When they were allowed, every other topic was about a recolor. That's insane.

3) 99% of all the recolors that were supposedly being made never got finished anyways.

4) No one should have to download the recolors that were made in order to play netgames. Want a different color character? Use the COLOR command.

5) There is also a severe lack of originality in them. And there is no additional gameplay value, especially when every other recolor has Lightdash, Homing, and Multithok on.

 

[Sniperific]

Ok mystic you win >.<

 

[Monster Iestyn]

I'm glad there are at least some intellegent users, for without them, this forum would be full of n00bs.

 

[Mystic]

1) No one has ever made a good recolored character, save Senku. And even then, he did a tremendous amount of work to get them where they are. No one else has done it.

And that's the thing. I don't even like Senku's WADs. I played with them once, found them lame, and went back to playing as Sonic. At least he put effort into the damn things, though, unlike all the other ones I see.

The reality is that fan characters are unoriginal and boring, and I have yet to see anything that remotely suggests there is any exception to that.

 

[Sik]

or simply don't edit the sprites at all and simply mess with the SOC.

You know what happens when people start making stand-alone SOCs in most of the cases, so better not even that... >_> Honestly SOCs weren't made for them being run alone :/

Also, if Senku is a recolor, I'm gonna blow up. Not because he's a hedgehog that means he's a recolor - man, two animals of the same species will look similar, no matter what. A recolor is a character with little or no modification besides color changes. Senku doesn't fit with that description definitely.

And anyways, you just made me remind of some videos where recolors take over the world and are considered the worst enemy over the world, being amazingly overpowered with their gigahypermegaturbosuperblasts (or something like that) and such. And that's true, recolors are overpowered. At least if they were like my character, that is a recolor but at least is completely weak :) (at least he's weaker than Sonic)

 

[Mystic]

Sik, around here the word "recolor" and "fan character" became synonymous somehow. Senku's WADs aren't really recolors, but since the word basically started to mean every fan character ever, they still fit in the bubble here. Obviously he did a little more than recolor the darn things, but they're definitely still fan characters.

We really should try to fix the terminology this place uses, but "recolor" is much faster to type than "fan character", so I guess we're stuck with it.

 

[Sik]

Sik, around here the word "recolor" and "fan character" became synonymous somehow. Senku's WADs aren't really recolors, but since the word basically started to mean every fan character ever, they still fit in the bubble here. Obviously he did a little more than recolor the darn things, but they're definitely still fan characters.

I guess that somehow you'd desire custom characters support to be removed from SRB2, right?

We really should try to fix the terminology this place uses, but "recolor" is much faster to type than "fan character", so I guess we're stuck with it.

Fanchar, anyone?

 

[Mystic]

I guess that somehow you'd desire custom characters support to be removed from SRB2, right?

The thought has certainly crossed my mind, but I've seen it used well once. Espio was a nicely made WAD, admitably using a lot of ripped sprites and edited sprites, but it played well and looked different enough from the rest of the characters in the game to be interesting. It also played kinda well in match and was generally fun to mess with. I didn't use it much, but it was a definitely good use of the character editing system.

The main problem is that making a REAL character requires drawing about 200 sprites by hand, something that basically nobody except AJ is interesting in doing. I'd love to see people make real character WADs, be them other Sonic characters such as Rouge or Eggman, or other video game characters such as Mario or Link, but nobody seems interested in spending the time to make a good character WAD, and I can't say I blame them.

 

[sonic260]

Ok Mystic I hear what you are saying but I'm not giving up.
Besides when making a comic that you're going to put yourself in, a fan character is pretty much required, otherwise you'd be playing a natural character like the author in Sonic and Pals

 

[Luminous]

Ok Mystic I hear what you are saying but I'm not giving up.

And why not? Seriously. "It's my fancharacter, so I can automatically avoid rules and demands" isn't a good reason. God, change your signature. It's totally wrong.

 

[Rob]

Ok Mystic I hear what you are saying but I'm not giving up.

As long as you don't release it on the boards, no one really cares whether or not you do it.

Besides when making a comic that you're going to put yourself in, a fan character is pretty much required, otherwise you'd be playing a natural character like the author in Sonic and Pals

And what does something about a comic have to do with SRB2?