Should SRB2 bring its IRC channel back? (new Discord age ID requirements)

mango-ki

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Discord has recently announced that they will begin rolling out age ID verification in March, and setting all accounts to "teen" by default unless an ID is given to access NSFW channels, or sensitive content, as well as message requests on Discord. While that sounds reasonable at first, this is likely the start of further locking down access to Discord's features without handing over a photo of your face or your government ID to prove that you're old enough to use the service, a trend we've been seeing on other social media platforms in recent months.

Discord has been caught out for using Persona as it's age ID service, which has ties to dodgy figures and organisations. This also comes after Discord's help desk had a data breach several months ago where 70'000 IDs were exposed, mainly from users in the UK. On top of that, the tech has been proven to be unreliable, and users can easily bypass it with various different methods.

Realistically, Discord can already verify your age using the large amount of existing data they already have on you, and they do claim to use this info initially to verify your age as well, but regardless, they're now going down the same path as most other social media platforms and governments across the world and forcing you to hand over your ID to prove how old you are, in the name of "protecting kids online", regardless of whether you're an adult or not.

This is increasingly being seen as a way to de-anonymise users online and tie their real-life identity to their online identities, which is a massive privacy concern. Remember when we were taught to never share personal information on the Internet? Now, the very thing we were warned against doing is being increasingly normalised online by governments and big-tech platforms alike.

I've already deleted my 5-year-old Discord account (something I should've done earlier, to be honest). Do you think it's time that SRB2 goes back to ol' reliable IRC for real-time chat on Freenode? At least IRC as a protocol is never going to try any of the same stuff that every social media platform, now including Discord, is trying on its users. And it's a free and open protocol! And if you want voice chat, Mumble is also a perfectly good alternative, if not better than Discord's VoIP backend.

Let me know what you think.
 
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Discord has been caught out for using Persona as it's age ID service, which has ties to dodgy figures and organisations. This also comes after Discord's help desk had a data breach several months ago where 70'000 IDs were exposed, mainly from users in the UK. On top of that, the tech has been proven to be unreliable, and users can easily bypass it with various different methods.
I would also like to point out that Discord absolutely does not care. The broker of the breach said they got 1.6 TB of data, there is a chance of there being way more than the disclosed amount of IDs in there.
This is also disregarding that Discord - despite the breach - had the utter gall to call the attempt "successful", and I'm not kidding when I say this.
Last year, Discord successfully launched a teen-by-default experience in the UK and Australia, and this global rollout builds on that approach to deliver consistent, age-appropriate protections worldwide.
They also tried to add an arbitration clause to their Terms of Use right after the breach...
 
As someone who deleted my Discord account far longer ago and has refused to touch it ever since, I'd be down.
 
This has come up in staff chat once or twice lol

But if we were gonna close down the server, I think we probably wouldn't replace it with anything, and just have people use the MB instead.
 
There are also alternatives such as Teamspeak and Matrix, but instances like these is why I consider it very important that communities do not abandon the idea of running and maintaining a private forum. Sure, a lot of work is offloaded, but you also lose a lot of control regarding how things will evolve over time and run the risk of not having much control over issues that come up in the future.

Unfortunately, there are many niche communities out there that are now beginning to learn this the hard way, Sonic Team Junior was smart to not let the Discord replace the message board.
 
Call me old fashioned if you must, but I'm all for the idea of just making the MB the main social hub. I never really was all that big into Discord and always found it annoying when people online insisted that you need to use it to download things or get help when you run into issues in games or etc. Now I see all of that starting to come crashing down and my old timer rear quarters can't help but feel a little vindicated in my skepticism towards it. Not only could this be a decent shot in the arm of boosted activity around here if people are finally moving off Discord, but even if it's an unrealistic expectation I'd like to see more communities start hosting and using their own community forums instead of relying on third party apps.
 
I agree with this also. Something like IRC could be complementary to a forum for those who prefer instant chat in a community, but nothing truly beats a forum in the end.

There are several free forum hosting solutions too which are easy to use, proboards.com being one of the oldest ones.
 
I like the idea of bringing the IRC channel back for the sake of being true to the Final Demo Message™, and also because why not. But not to replace the single best place for SRB2-related chatting. Plus, the Discord allows those that either don't want to, or for some reason can't create an MB account to get support if they have a problem.

The only downside to having the IRC back is that it'd be a waste-a money if no one ever actively talks in it.
 
Yeah, I recently learned that FreeNode got bought up a few years back and restructured, and from that the open-source community created Libera.Chat as a replacement, so if an IRC channel were to be made anywhere it would definitely be on Libera.

I've been using IRC regularly for about over a month now. I lurk in some of the nerdy channels on the Libera network, and mainly talk in channels I've bridged to Discord communities that I've been involved in for years. It's really nice! There just seems to be far less cognitive overload when compared to checking servers on Discord which have many channels at a time. There's just one channel to watch per community, and it's purely text with no other nonsense.

I don't see how operating a free channel on Libera would cost any money, though? I think it would be worth a try for the SRB2 community, just as an experiment; you could bridge it to one of the main discussion channels on the Discord server even, so both sides can talk to each other.
 

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