I have created a sawblade

Would you like to play a game?

How much blood would you shed to stay alive?

-Horror movie references end here-

So, the other day, I decided to play Sonic the Hedgehog (1991, most assuredly) on Sonic Mega Collection. The game owns my socks off, by the way.
Anyway. In the metally level (Scrap Brain Zone, if I recall correctly), there were the sawblades.
A simple trap. But I wanted to see if I could recreate those in SRB2...
I chose the FOF method. I whipped up and animated a simple sawblade texture, applied it to an FOF, made some metal rods stick from the ceiling to seemingly hold the sawblade FOF up.
The FOF is an intangible sides-only FOF (Linedef type 67, to be precise) with plain damage.
These are the fruits of my labor.
Though, they can scarcely be called fruits. But that's what they're called nonetheless.

Test WAD: Here. (Sendspace. Because I'm too lazy to use something else.)
Contains a test map with rings and shield meant for testing damage.

However, there are a number of issues with this method of sawbladery.

• If the sawblade is too thin, the player can easily pass right through it. Even in the test WAD, Sonic can thok right through harmlessly. Yet if it's too thick, part of the texture is appearent on the other 2 sides of the blade. You can see this in the test WAD too.
• The player is not harmed unless his horizontal center is within the FOF. This is because of how damage effects are applied to intangible FOFs. They do not hurt on contact. Rather, they only hurt if the player is "inside" the FOF.
• The player can pass right through the blade if he is invincible by any means. Though, this is the same in Sonic 1, so it's unimportant.
• In OpenGL, if you have a shield, the corona will show on the transparent parts of the texture.
• The texture buggers up in Software. I dunno how to fix this...
• It looks like there are 2 sawbades rather than just one.

The FOF is intangible, because the damage by solid FOF can only be done if the player steps on it. The player does not recieve damage if he touches the sides.
I blame SSNTails for this. Because everything wrong with SRB2 is his fault.
Another reason is that if the designer uses a moving FOF, the player could (Theoretically. I have not tested this) get killed instantly due to the crushing factor.
And as for the metal rods... The textures on the sawblades get buggered up if their linedefs get split at all.
So, you can do what I did, and simply move the metal rods very close to the FOF, but not touch.

So. Sawblades in SRB2. Possible? Sure.
Practical? Not this method, anyway...

So. If you wanna use this sawblade in your level (which I doubt you do), the necessary lumps are all in the test WAD.
You can feel free to alter any of the lumps for any of your needs.
You can figure out how to set up the sawblade by looking at the test wad. Heck, you could probably guess at it. You've gotta know how to make FOFs, though.
If you want a sawblade sound, make your own. I'm too lazy.

And that's it. Hopefully, I didn't forget anything important... Odds are, I did.
Got a better method? Post it. Please. 'Cus I sure could use it as much as the next guy.

(Sweet genius, that was a long post...)

SRB2-Playah said:

The player does not recieve damage if he touches the sides. I blame SSNTails for this. Because everything wrong with SRB2 is his fault.

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Ha Ha lol

WOW!!
That's the biggest post I've ever seen!!

Oh and the saw is cool too!

How can I say this, Flippin heck, nice on SP.

I can see this going to future hard maps.

SRB2-Playah said:

• If the sawblade is too thin, the player can easily pass right through it. Even in the test WAD, Sonic can thok right through harmlessly. Yet if it's too thick, part of the texture is appearent on the other 2 sides of the blade. You can see this in the test WAD too.
• The player is not harmed unless his horizontal center is within the FOF.
• It looks like there are 2 sawbades rather than just one.

The FOF is intangible, because the damage by solid FOF can only be done if the player steps on it. The player does not recieve damage if he touches the sides.

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I think that if you put an invisobile, damaging fof around the sawblade, you could fix the damage range and thikness problems, wile thinning the sawblade without breaking function.

nadjili said:

That's the biggest post I've ever seen!!

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Ever heard of a guy named Mystic?

lol teh bump.</offtopic>

I once saw a post 3x larger.

Umm... I think there is a problem. I was tring to show the blade to my friend but, the file on sendspace has expired. Try uploading it again or use somthing else so eveyone can see it.

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9. Don't bump topics pointlessly. If a topic is more than three weeks old, ask yourself whether your post adds to the conversation or you have a good reason to post in the old topic. The following are _NOT_ good reasons:

* Asking the author to reupload a file with a broken link.
* Frivolous statements like "This is cool."

Likewise, do not complain if someone bumps a topic. Mention that the post was a bump, and you'll be banned along with him. The administrators are fully capable of moderating the forums without your help.

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*Fixed.*

EDIT: Wait, does that mean the first of last post?