Swift the "poorly drawn" Dragon WIP

[InfernoMelon]

When I wanted to write a review a few days back there was no text box, only the option to rate the addon from 1-5 stars. Yeah, I don't know what happened either. But something did happen, that's for sure...

it's prob just a bug/glitch or something and, idk, if this a common thing happening rn or it's just me, I guess, you prob have to write the review in the discussion page for now

 

[Aquavine]

it's prob just a bug/glitch or something and, idk, if this a common thing happening rn or it's just me, I guess, you prob have to write the review in the discussion page for now

I have an option write a review now, but back then I had no possible way to write an actual review in the review tab. (And as I said earlier I will do it later because I'm going through writing de-buff. -.-)

 

[LeoTheHedgehog12]

I accidentally wrote 4 reviews while I was trying to figure out what was going on and they were all 5 stars help what do I do

 

[Aquavine]

I accidentally wrote 4 reviews while I was trying to figure out what was going on and they were all 5 stars help what do I do

I don’t see any of your reviews on the main page, unless you rated it instead just like me. So I guess you should be fine.

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And for other thing. I made a new side falling sprite (Even though it’s more of a remake) but my PC just decided that it won’t be able to connect to internet for the time being, and because I just prefered to turn it off for today than reseting it and THEN turning it off, i just decided to make a photo of my screen and crop it. (I’m sometimes feelling anxious about my pc that one day it just won’t turn on and I will lose almost a decade worth of personal data. )

And I decided that from now on I will just leave obscured body parts as assets that can simply use when redrawing the sprites in your style. I hope that will make your work a bit easier.

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And I kinda have a problem with N.E.C act 1 cameo that halts this whole update from releasing. I imported the sprite as an in-game object and the scale is literally perfect, but I have no clue how and where I should add the secret area. And it’s kinda my fault because I made this stage really tightly packed which makes adding new sections actually impossible in some parts. :C And I don’t want her to just be plain view, but I also don’t want her to appear just before the end. (Even if that would make perfect sense why she’s in sea town specifically when looking at my fan-made lore on why she’s here in the first place.)

 

[InfernoMelon]

(I’m sometimes feelling anxious about my pc that one day it just won’t turn on and I will lose almost a decade worth of personal data. )

Same for me lol, deadass, this is like my second pc now, since for the other, I accidently spill some water on it

And I kinda have a problem with N.E.C act 1 cameo that halts this whole update from releasing. I imported the sprite as an in-game object and the scale is literally perfect, but I have no clue how and where I should add the secret area. And it’s kinda my fault because I made this stage really tightly packed which makes adding new sections actually impossible in some parts. :C And I don’t want her to just be plain view, but I also don’t want her to appear just before the end. (Even if that would make perfect sense why she’s in sea town specifically when looking at my fan-made lore on why she’s here in the first place.)

Maybe you can add like a secret breakable wall, in one the tunnel sections or something like that

 

[Aquavine]

Same for me lol, deadass, this is like my second pc now, since for the other, I accidently spill some water on it

And my laptop is 7 years old, I have it since 2017. I mean it still works pretty good looking at it’s age, but you never know what’s happening on the inside of the pc itself. :’D

Maybe you can add like a secret breakable wall, in one the tunnel sections or something like that

I just hope that I didn’t make those tightly packed too. In that case my only way would be to have a hidden fade out corridor somewhere that has a hidden teleport trigger inside it when it’s too dark to see anything... But yeah, I somehow nailed the scale in my first version of this sprite, I never had to make any higher size redraws of it, which I’m glad of because it looks extremely good already.

 

[Aquavine]

I finally started working on the act's 1 cameo area! And outside of needed polish it's pretty much done!

Spoiler: The viber.

And along with that, catch Swift's remake of the "Guy pointing gun at himself" meme. (Looks like she knows something we don't...) And this time I'll give you a hint towards the location of this place, kinda... Did you know that Swift's tail dash works really good underwater.

 

[InfernoMelon]

I finally started working on the act's 1 cameo area! And outside of needed polish it's pretty much done!

Spoiler: The viber.

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And along with that, catch Swift's remake of the "Guy pointing gun at himself" meme. (Looks like she knows something we don't...) And this time I'll give you a hint towards the location of this place, kinda... Did you know that Swift's tail dash works really good underwater.

AW HELL YEAH!!!, I can't wait
also, you ask, and you shall receive lol

 

[Aquavine]

I managed to remake the front and back bouncing sprites! (It was actually hard for some reason...) And I also made some changes to the jump sprites. And I unfortunately did nothing new on N.E.C's cameo today. :C

Spoiler: Boioioioing

At this point I feel that the jump/spring sprites are ready to go at this point. And now you can finally have the raw falling sprite. :D

 

[Aquavine]

I made the rest of the animation frames for the new front/back bounce sprites! :D​

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And here are the tail assets

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I don't have a clue why I made this post so stylized... I mean it looks cool. :D And I have some other stuff too. So for the last bounce frame (a.k.a ouchy :C) I tried to make her close her palms because... Ouchy :C And I see you can see, I just can't draw in a right way.

It looks like the hand randomly breaks the laws of physics and changes the angle, It just looks like weird to me. And about hands, I changed these in the rest of the sprites because they looked a bit weird earlier too. And one more thing, for the front o u c h y sprite I tried to make the tear look like that one sad spongebob meme, but it either was too large and obscured her mouth, or just straight up left her face. But you still could try to make it when redrawing those.

And I have a question about 1.2, when you said "It's just going to have sight small sprites tweaks" you meant those right there? Because I don't really know what to expect from this. Also I'm so happy that "???" is slowly getting added.

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And I gotta tell you, I absolutely love how Swift looks like in her idle sprites, she's just done with everything xD.

This is what think of every time I see this sprite. And this sprite goes hard as an emote btw.

(And it's a great felling when you finally can close your 5+ tabs in your art program...) And I forgot to tell you but I like how Swift basically uses her tail as a whole shotgun in your remake of that meme. Apparently she can use it also as a spear... and as a pogo stick... (I mean if her tail were to just pop out from all this damage it would regrow... right? ) And I also want to make an actual walk and run cycle for her someday, but only for the side angle. :C​

 

[InfernoMelon]

And I have a question about 1.2, when you said "It's just going to have sight small sprites tweaks" you meant those right there? Because I don't really know what to expect from this. Also I'm so happy that "???" is slowly getting added.

Yeah, those was sprites going to be tweaked for One.2 (can't type One anymore because the key for it is broken rip) and the landing sprites and also don't expect much, just some sprites tweaks and the first boss getting changed to added them (but it's not really her but at the same time it's is?) the first of the 5 bosses that going to be replaced him (in different forms of course), not working of the rest until the Final Update, so nothing to major really

And I gotta tell you, I absolutely love how Swift looks like in her idle sprites, she's just done with everything xD.
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This is what think of every time I see this sprite. And this sprite goes hard as an emote btw. View attachment 145216​

Maybe, if one-day if I ever started a some-kind server (prob never), this is definitely going to be one of the emotes lmao

(And it's a great felling when you finally can close your 5+ tabs in your art program...) And I forgot to tell you but I like how Swift basically uses her tail as a whole shotgun in your remake of that meme. Apparently she can use it also as a spear... and as a pogo stick... (I mean if her tail were to just pop out from all this damage it would regrow... right? ) And I also want to make an actual walk and run cycle for her someday, but only for the side angle. :C​

Yeah, if you basically cut off her or Spear's tail, it eventually regrows in a few days like how some lizards do (no, they are not secretly lizards, they are still dragons) also good job that if ever do that sometime, making those are hard af

 

[Aquavine]

I got curious and wanted to see how my new sprites look like in game and they actually look really good! And they somehow managed to smoothly flow together. Specifically the bounce sprite.

(I realized that you can make shots like this by using fox-bot, because when you normally enter objectplace your character disappears. This will go handy when making thumbnails. )​

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And I unfortunately won't do many sprites for a while because life is straight up ramming into my plans. (5 school tests, and a one 9 hour school day. In a single week. ) But I instead decided to make a PK3 with cut out, aligned, and converted sprites so you won't have to bother doing all this from scratch. (I'm surprised there's no way to convert multiple image files in a single go. It makes SLADE kinda clumsy in that regard. And you can't replace files with the same name either which makes it even worse. :C)

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Yeah, those was sprites going to be tweaked for One.2 (can't type One anymore because the key for it is broken rip) and the landing sprites and also don't expect much,

You mean you're just going to redraw all the sprites that I made up until this point or...? Because I kinda don't understand this exactly. :|
(And F for the one key, my "W" key is unstable and sometimes it just pops up when you press it at an wrong angle, and that rubber pad that makes the key press also shifts sometimes and I need to put it in the middle or it won't work, or will work on a specific angle. :C)

just some sprites tweaks and the first boss getting changed to added them (but it's not really her but at the same time it's is?) the first of the 5 bosses that going to be replaced him (in different forms of course), not working of the rest until the Final Update, so nothing to major really

When you talk about adding [insert every pronoun that exists in english] over eggman bosses I always imagine that [insert every pronoun that exists in english yet again] will just vibe in the egg-mobile instead of eggman for some reason.

Maybe, if one-day if I ever started a some-kind server (prob never), this is definitely going to be one of the emotes lmao

Peak.

(I noticed that 24x24 is usually the best size for custom "emojis" you can make on this forum.)

Yeah, if you basically cut off her or Spear's tail, it eventually regrows in a few days like how some lizards do (no, they are not secretly lizards, they are still dragons)

How do you know this tho. What have you did dawg...

(And dragons are just huge lizards with wings, just like tigers are just big kitties.)

also good job that if ever do that sometime, making those are hard af

I already have an idea of how it will look like, but I can't even draw at the moment. :C

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Everytime I post anything in this thread I feel like I'm the last one left in a party of some kind when everyone already left like 10 minutes ago. The addon have been already released and the W.I.P thread isn't needed anymore, yet I'm still here...

 

[InfernoMelon]

And I unfortunately won't do many sprites for a while because life is straight up ramming into my plans. (5 school tests, and a one 9 hour school day. In a single week. ) But I instead decided to make a PK3 with cut out, aligned, and converted sprites so you won't have to bother doing all this from scratch. (I'm surprised there's no way to convert multiple image files in a single go. It makes SLADE kinda clumsy in that regard. And you can't replace files with the same name either which makes it even worse. :C)

Oh, that's fine, that means more work for me yipeee! (also, thanks btw) this actually means the 1.2 update is actually done now, I can actually draw more stuff for the extras now
also, there is a way to convert multiple images by holding the shift key and dragging your mouse on the images you want to convert

You mean you're just going to redraw all the sprites that I made up until this point or...? Because I kinda don't understand this exactly. :|

I was going to redraw the sprites myself due to response of you, I just didn't expect you to redraw some lol (besides, I still got some more to redo right after this small update, not going to say what tho )

(And F for the one key, my "W" key is unstable and sometimes it just pops up when you press it at an wrong angle, and that rubber pad that makes the key press also shifts sometimes and I need to put it in the middle or it won't work, or will work on a specific angle. :C)

This literally happening to me rn, with my A key now, literally my most important key ffs, I guess I have to get a new keyboard now...

When you talk about adding [insert every pronoun that exists in english] over eggman bosses I always imagine that [insert every pronoun that exists in english yet again] will just vibe in the egg-mobile instead of eggman for some reason.

Well, unfortunately, she's not going to do that because he's not a brilliant scientist like eggman haha, reference, they think using machines is lame as hell, so she instead of that, he going to morph their body into different forms to kinda represent the bosses in the OG game (minus the first one lol because that's an imposter)

How do you know this tho. What have you did dawg...View attachment 145461 (And dragons are just huge lizards with wings, just like tigers are just big kitties.)

I did nothing to her, I swear!... also, TRUE

Everytime I post anything in this thread I feel like I'm the last one left in a party of some kind when everyone already left like 10 minutes ago. The addon have been already released and the W.I.P thread isn't needed anymore, yet I'm still here...

I'm still here smh

 

[Aquavine]

Oh, that's fine, that means more work for me yipeee! (also, thanks btw) this actually means the 1.2 update is actually done now, I can actually draw more stuff for the extras now

Yipee! :D

also, there is a way to convert multiple images by holding the shift key and dragging your mouse on the images you want to convert

... I somehow managed to never notice this feature for all my time working in this program. ()

I was going to redraw the sprites myself due to response of you, I just didn't expect you to redraw some lol (besides, I still got some more to redo right after this small update, not going to say what tho )

Oh, I thought that you were going to redraw/edit my sprites so it would fit with your artstyle/how you want this sprite to look like exactly.

This literally happening to me rn, with my A key now, literally my most important key ffs, I guess I have to get a new keyboard now...

I sometimes can't run properly in the worst possible moment and I just have to pause and surgically insert the rubber back so it will work again. :/

Well, unfortunately, she's not going to do that because he's not a brilliant scientist like eggman haha, reference, they think using machines is lame as hell, so she instead of that, he going to morph their body into different forms to kinda represent the bosses in the OG game (minus the first one lol because that's an imposter)

Dawg uses every possible pronoun all at the same time. (Does she go by meow/meow/meow too? )

I did nothing to her, I swear!... also, TRUE

I know what you are...

I'm still here smh

You're the single janitor cleaning the absolute mess after the party and where just both silently existing in the big party hall with every single even the smallest sound making large echo... (I LOVE LIMINAL SPACES!1!1 unless someones already here. )

 

[InfernoMelon]

Oh, I thought that you were going to redraw/edit my sprites so it would fit with your artstyle/how you want this sprite to look like exactly.

Nah, I'm not THAT lazy, I have to some work myself sometimes

I sometimes can't run properly in the worst possible moment, and I just have to pause and surgically insert the rubber back so it will work again. :/

For me, I have to slam my finger onto to it, to fix it

Dawg uses every possible pronoun all at the same time. (Does she go by meow/meow/meow too? )

Yes.

I know what you are... View attachment 145469

 

[Aquavine]

I have a proposition for you... Do want Swift to appear in yet another addon?

So for context, a friend (I'm not really sure actually, I'm too shy to ask him if he sees it this way. :C) of mine is making a desert map with a bar as the start of it. And there's no actual bartender character for the moment, and I was wondering if you would want Swift to appear as cameo working as a bartender.

So I already have one thing planned. She will wear a texudo like in that one art you did for the addon page. I made a small edit of how it could look like. (I can't draw texudos actually. :C And yes, she just ripped her tail through 300$ suit... :/) And I think there could be an 8 frame rotations for the sprite. But I'll have to ask him actually if his other sprites have these.

And now the thing is that I don't really know the situation about the sprites... I could do it myself, but I also want to know if you want to do these yourself instead. And the creator of the map can also 3D model so he could make pre-rendered sprites, but I don't think he wants to do those at the moment. So now I don't have any clue what I should do.

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Nah, I'm not THAT lazy, I have to some work myself sometimes

And about that... I think this will be the case for a while. I feel that all this sprite making is starting to get to me. And I don't really know which sprites I could improve outside of maybe redrawing those so they could look smoother. Sorry for that but I think that you will indeed have to do some work yourself this time. :C

For me, I have to slam my finger onto to it, to fix it

The almighty power of hitting something aggressively until it works...

Yes.

Great... in that case... does it go by 你的工作很酷 too? (I'm slowly going insane...)

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And I was thinking about a one small thing yesterday at 11 p.m. How old is Swift exactly? Does she just have a way longer life span than humans or are there some "dragon years" that I don't know about?

My extremely tired self at 11 p.m made up a head-canon that she's 75 years old (with average dragon life-span being 300 years old) Which from my calculations means that if she had a regular human life-span then she would be 25 years old. Not too bad I guess.

But I'm still curious and want to hear how it looks like from the canon lore!1!1! perspective. :>

 

[InfernoMelon]

I have a proposition for you... Do want Swift to appear in yet another addon?

So for context, a friend (I'm not really sure actually, I'm too shy to ask him if he sees it this way. :C) of mine is making a desert map with a bar as the start of it. And there's no actual bartender character for the moment, and I was wondering if you would want Swift to appear as cameo working as a bartender.

Oh yeah, go ahead, I'm totally fine with that

So I already have one thing planned. She will wear a texudo like in that one art you did for the addon page. I made a small edit of how it could look like. (I can't draw texudos actually. :C And yes, she just ripped her tail through 300$ suit... :/) And I think there could be an 8 frame rotations for the sprite. But I'll have to ask him actually if his other sprites have these.
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And now the thing is that I don't really know the situation about the sprites... I could do it myself, but I also want to know if you want to do these yourself instead. And the creator of the map can also 3D model so he could make pre-rendered sprites, but I don't think he wants to do those at the moment. So now I don't have any clue what I should do.

Oh, I can do some sprites, I got nothing better to do rn lol, but idk if I can do 8 rotations, also she looks so fancy in that suit lol
also a 3D model would be neat but at the same time, the world is not ready for 3D Swift...

And about that... I think this will be the case for a while. I feel that all this sprite making is starting to get to me. And I don't really know which sprites I could improve outside of maybe redrawing those so they could look smoother. Sorry for that but I think that you will indeed have to do some work yourself this time. :C

Oh, that's ok, no need to worry about that

Great... in that case... does it go by 你的工作很酷 too? (I'm slowly going insane...)

yep. also 谢谢

And I was thinking about a one small thing yesterday at 11 p.m. How old is Swift exactly? Does she just have a way longer life span than humans or are there some "dragon years" that I don't know about?

My extremely tired self at 11 p.m made up a head-canon that she's 75 years old (with average dragon life-span being 300 years old) Which from my calculations means that if she had a regular human life-span then she would be 25 years old. Not too bad I guess.

But I'm still curious and want to hear how it looks like from the canon lore!1!1! perspective. :>

Well, she is actually 19 but the dragon years concept you made is actually so fucking cool, that I'm making it canon so like, she's 19 in human years but her true age is 75 in dragon years damn, 25? she's not that old, Ashley is, she's like 35 lol, well, in human years, she's actually 130

 

[Aquavine]

Oh yeah, go ahead, I'm totally fine with that View attachment 145840

I was pretty much sure that would be the case, but I still wanted to ask. Because I don’t kinda like using her without you knowing about.

[Like dawg doesn’t own her yet he still be using her left and right without permisson.] Like that’s some weird level of stuff that I never want to be close to, so I’ll just stick to asking you every time I want to use her.

Oh, I can do some sprites, I got nothing better to do rn lol, but idk if I can do 8 rotations, also she looks so fancy in that suit lol

Okay, thanks for that. But I don’t really want these to be just stand sprites but clothes... But I also don’t know what else they could be... Maybe could do something with her being a bardender. But maybe this time the best option might be the easiest.

And if you will somehow manage to put so much detail into these sprites, then I would like you to try and draw her in the same suit you drew her in for the addon page when you were about to showcase her abilities. (The one with Granny glasses.)

also a 3D model would be neat but at the same time, the world is not ready for 3D Swift...

In my opinion It would be kinda hard to make a good model of her that doesn’t stray too far away from her actual design. Or maybe that’s just me.

Oh, that's ok, no need to worry about that

Okay, I think that I managed to redraw all the sprites that needed major changes, for now at least. (Unless I get motivation to redraw some other sprites, but I feel that I there’s no other meh looking sprites, to me at least.)

And I have a pretty big thing that I kept forgeting to tell you, and that can unfortunely be very long and tiredsome to fix. I noticed that most of the sprites are either kinda jittery, have big clumps of line-art, or just have straight up have stray pixels.

And the only logical way to fix it is to... redraw the sprites from the ground up or severly edit them... :C

yep. also 谢谢

Well, she is actually 19 but the dragon years concept you made is actually so fucking cool, that I'm making it canon so like, she's 19 in human years but her true age is 75 in dragon years damn, 25? she's not that old, Ashley is, she's like 35 lol, well, in human years, she's actually 130

That’s cool to hear! (At least she can legally serve drinks... and work... does it mean that Swift canonicly pays taxes? ) But I feel that my cognitive-thinking-tired ahh explained concepts in a janky way again. So let me starighten some things.

So the 300 years life-span isn’t in dragon years, but in whole human years. (Because there’s no actual way that dragons that are giant flying lizards with ability to breathe literal fire would live barely a whole centrury.) And when I said that Swift would be 25 in human years even though she was 75, I meant that due to longer life-span, dragons would have longer development cycles. (I think, I’m making this up on spot. :C) And 75 years from a dragons development stand-point would be 25 from humans development stand-point. So in other words, in my head-canon Swift at 75 would be as capable and developed as a 25 year old human. But you can have it your way. (In that case, how long do dragons live in your canon lore?)

And the ”25” was just my calculation and I randomly thought of 75 years for an example. I didn’t knew how many that was until I calculated it, but then I felt that this age somehow fit her in some way. So ye.

And she’s 35? I guess she kinda looks like it. Out of them two, I think the best contender for SA2 Rouge’s voice would be Ashley. It just fits her with the fact that’s she’s way older.

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And I’m not putting any pressure on you, but how’s the update going? Is it too early to tell if it will release in october/november?

Just curious. (I feel like I already was asking this before.)

 

[InfernoMelon]

I was pretty much sure that would be the case, but I still wanted to ask. Because I don’t kinda like using her without you knowing about.

[Like dawg doesn’t own her yet he still be using her left and right without permisson.] Like that’s some weird level of stuff that I never want to be close to, so I’ll just stick to asking you every time I want to use her.

I don't know if should be mad or happy because that's the first time something like that ever happened to me lol

Okay, thanks for that. But I don’t really want these to be just stand sprites but clothes... But I also don’t know what else they could be... Maybe could do something with her being a bardender. But maybe this time the best option might be the easiest.

And if you will somehow manage to put so much detail into these sprites, then I would like you to try and draw her in the same suit you drew her in for the addon page when you were about to showcase her abilities. (The one with Granny glasses.)

I try something, it's definitely not going to be that option, sounds boring

That’s cool to hear! But I feel that my cognitive-thinking-tired ahh explained concepts in a janky way again. So let me starighten some things.

So the 300 years life-span isn’t in dragon years, but in whole human years. (Because there’s no actual way that dragons that are giant flying lizards with ability to breathe literal fire would live barely a whole centrury.) And when I said that Swift would be 25 in human years even though she was 75, I meant that due to longer life-span, dragons would have longer development cycles. (I think, I’m making this up on spot. :C) And 75 years from a dragons development stand-point would be 25 from humans development stand-point. So in other words, in my head-canon Swift at 75 would be as capable and developed as a 25 year old human. But you can have it your way. (In that case, how long do dragons live in your canon lore?)

And the ”25” was just my calculation and I randomly thought of 75 years for an example. I didn’t knew how many that was until I calculated it, but then I felt that this age somehow fit her in some way. So ye.

I prob stick to your head-canon because I like overly complicated lore for simple characters but it's my canon lore, well idk about how they live for lol

And I’m not putting any pressure on you, but how’s the update going? Is it too early to tell if it will release in october/november?

Just curious. (I feel like I already was asking this before.)

I meant, it's done (the patch is, I haven't started working on V2 yet because I got too much work I'm doing rn), It's going to be a Halloween release

 

[Aquavine]

I try something, it's definitely not going to be that option, sounds boring

Okay, I will look forward to it! (So you're making the sprites yourself now? Just asking because I want to be sure.)

I prob stick to your head-canon because I like overly complicated lore for simple characters but it's my canon lore, well idk about how they live for lol

So the "she's 75 in full human years" or the "she's 75 in dragon years but she's 19 in human years." because I'm not sure which one is canon now... -.-

I meant, it's done (the patch is, I haven't started working on V2 yet because I got too much work I'm doing rn), It's going to be a Halloween release

Spooky Swift will become real in 5 days... (I will wait for V2 like it's modern sonic V6. >:>)

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And my body magically decided that I do have power now to redraw sprites... But I feel that's just a small burst of energy and It's really just a showcase of how you could fix the jitteriness. And the answer is just redraw them... Which I did for the stand sprites.

Something like this, these look way better even if it's just a more detailed trace. (Which you can use if you want, but now I realized that you will also have to redraw the "walk" sprites if you implement these in-game. :<)