Sonic Generations

Why does SEGA keep things from the final in the demo? You know that the Sonic community of hackers are going to rip open this game. Plus with City escape and Modern Sonic's green hill zone being in the demo, that just seems that they cheeped out on us. At least the gameplay is good.

GREG THE CAT said:

And now I'm angry. Way to go, Sonic Team. You had me once again.

Fuck this shit. I'm not paying for Retro Sonic in the City. This is unacceptable. These are the poorest level choices I have seen.

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So wait, now the game is automatically gonna be crap because of the level choices? I'm not such a big fan of the level choices either, but how in the hell would the level choice make ANY difference? We haven't seen a single sample of gameplay in any of these levels, and yet you're just gonna assume they will all suck?

Seriously

WE NEED LEVELS BASED ON LEVELS FROM SONIC R
And we need Tails Doll as a boss. Period.
Also i want SRB2 levels here, even though SRB2 is a fangame

I accidentally the tube while attempting to the stage.

http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=24971&st=4380&p=598499&#entry598499 <- missions and other things revealed

Includes things like "VS./Co-Op (side character goes here)" (including fighting Cream twice no less. She must really hate you) and other things. Also, I dunno if this was linked yet, but this is pretty much everything Retro dug up so far, aside from the above missions (as of this writing): http://www.sonicretro.org/2011/06/m...level-list-bosses-first-music-rips/#more-3986

RedEnchilada said:

I accidentally the tube while attempting to the stage.

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I broke the tube too :/

I can not for the life of me finish the stage in under 47 seconds. I'm trying to whittle my 0:47:84 to at least 0:46:99. It's hard man.

EDIT: 0:46:81 HELL YEAH

I still can't get below 1:19.

Actually, neither can anyone on RDN. But that's not important.

How does one get their time lower?

RedEnchilada said:

I still can't get below 1:19.

Actually, neither can anyone on RDN. But that's not important.

How does one get their time lower?

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This guy knows what he's doing

Spamdash, Jumping, Hills. Managed 0:46:81, time for 45... *cries*

Mocking the first 3 zones missions

That Sonic Generations Megathread said:

CLASSIC GREEN HILL ZONE
Mission 1: Sonic Ghost (beat the time attack ghost)
Mission 2: Beaton (that's the fish badniks)
Mission 3: Vs Knuckles
Mission 4: Swings (likely involving the Green Hill swings)
Mission 5: High Speed (*shrugs*)

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1: I will forget the cliche-ness of the mission if Sega makes it hard.
2: Hopefully it will be like the Chaos Mode of earlier versions of SRB2!
3: Hopefully it isn't like Sonic Rivals. Hopefully its like that battle in Sonic Adventure.
4: Toot Toot Jungle Sonic! (sorry, i have'd to do it)
5: The heck will be the mission about.

Referring again to that Sonic Generations Megathread said:

MODERN GREEN HILL ZONE:
Mission 1: Ordered Dash Ring
Mission 2: VS Tails (....wut)
Mission 3: Sonic Ghost
Mission 4: Jump Jump Jump! (...)
Mission 5: 300% Boost

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1: Lightdash at its maxium component..i guess
2: GOSH I HATE YOU TAILS FROM THE PAST
3: Toot Toot Cliche Mission!
4: Sonic, The Jumpman
5: WEEE HEY LOOK GUYS IM AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT

Again said:

CLASSIC CHEMICAL PLANT ZONE
Mission 1: Co-Op Tails (tails co-op partner?)
Mission 2: Rescue the Animals
Mission 3: Aqua Barrier (Bubble shield~)
Mission 4: Sonic Ghost
Mission 5: Invincibility

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1: Poor Tails..that bastard Modern Sonic!
2: FUCK YOU EGGMAN NOW I NEED TO RESCUE ANIMALS TO CONTINUE
3: Fuck the water, i got a bubble shield!
4: Bastard Sonic Ghost, you came back!
5: Hey Look Guys I Got An Game Genie

[insert reference to the megathread in sonic retro said:

MODERN CHEMICAL PLANT ZONE
Mission 1: One Ring
Mission 2: Sonic Ghost
Mission 3: Co-Op Amy
Mission 4: Grabber (those spider robots from Chemical Plant)
Mission 5: Sprinkler in Water

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1: ....this is what sega calls hardcore?
2: WEE RAINBOWS OH FUCK THE SONIC GHOST ATTACKED AGAIN
3: If i run with you Amy..will you leave me the heck alone?
4: OMG AN SPIDER
5: The heck the mission will be about

SONIC RETRO ATTACKS AGAIN said:

CLASSIC SKY SANCTUARY ZONE
Mission 1: Sonic Ghost
Mission 2: Eggrobo
Mission 3: Round Platform
Mission 4: Enemy Rings (WHAT!? Likely has to do with Motobug monitor)
Mission 5: VS. Amy

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1: FUCK THE SONIC GHOST LETS ADVANCE
2: HAHAHAHA YOU WILL NOT GET ME THIS TIME SONIC
3: The Spherical Zone, Sega Edition
4: MUAHAHA Red Rings
5: DON'T KISS ME AMY

Sonic Re-bah said:

MODERN SKY SANCTUARY ZONE
Mission 1: VS Knuckles
Mission 2: 200% Boost
Mission 3: Balloon
Mission 4: Sonic Ghost
Mission 5: Fast Tempo

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1: Knuckles i hate you cuz i can't glide
2: What happened to the 300% Boost? DAMN
3: Weee Balloons
4: GOTTA KILL YOU, GOTTA KILL YOU, SONIC GHOS-how i kill a ghost?
5: Fast Fast Fast Fes-wait a minute...

Got the demo, my lowest time so far is 0:57:79

also i want to stab XAlted in the face

It'll be interesting to see Chemical Plant Zone in 3D/HD.

A_Miles_Prower said:

3: Hopefully it isn't like Sonic Rivals. Hopefully its like that battle in Sonic Adventure.

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Hopefully it will become like sonic rivals. As epic as the fight in sonic adventure seems, it was sadly, very crappy. It could also be neither and just another sonic ghost.

Scizor300 said:

Got the demo, my lowest time so far is 0:57:79

also i want to stab XAlted in the face

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I just got 0:45:88. Added a jump to the normal routine I went with on a small bridge after a yellow spring and that shaved about a second off of my time. Would've gotten a better one if I remembered to Spindash at the last two loops. :/

EDIT: MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I got a picture this time, yippee.

Maybe we should just start a thread where where we all go through sonic generations zones and post our times.

XAlted said:

I just got 0:45:88. Added a jump to the normal routine I went with on a small bridge after a yellow spring and that shaved about a second off of my time. Would've gotten a better one if I remembered to Spindash at the last two loops. :/

EDIT: MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I got a picture this time, yippee.

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Bad news...
(I saw Parax get 44:36 live, but he wasn't recording it, I don't think)

And yes, the demo sucks, go figure.

犬夜叉;710106 said:

Bad news...
(I saw Parax get 44:36 live, but he wasn't recording it, I don't think)

And yes, the demo sucks, go figure.

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Dammit, and I just got 0:44:93

Oh well, we didn't do anything too different, he just got a better time somehow. I'll figure it out later.

Bbop800 said:

So wait, now the game is automatically gonna be crap because of the level choices? I'm not such a big fan of the level choices either, but how in the hell would the level choice make ANY difference? We haven't seen a single sample of gameplay in any of these levels, and yet you're just gonna assume they will all suck?

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I was hoping they were going to compensate for the not nearly accurate classic gameplay with good, varied level choices that really showed the unique worlds that Sonic and his imitator have gone through in the last 19 years. Sadly, this is no longer the case, and just to rub salt in the wound they have the gall to go and release one of the better levels as DLC. Games should have all of their content packed into the CD. Milking a game with DLC to keep raking in the money is a cheap marketing gimmick that I am sick of and this practice needs to end. You couldn't download more content on a Genesis cartridge. The entire game was THERE. And this game is Retro Sonic going through Green Hill Zone, two clones, and 4 City levels. I don't think anyone could possibly see anything right with that level selection.

Even with proper controls, this game isn't worth it with this level selection. They ignored any of the unique stages like Quartz Quadrant, Metropolis, or Sandopolis. Hell, I would take the Middle East levels from SA2 over City Escape. Just something to round out the variety. But no.

Sonic the Hedgehog 4 had better level variety than this. And that is downright depressing considering the shit this franchise has been through.

It seems Sega went with a 3 tier system. (As speculated by a Retro member)

Area 1- Classic
Green Hill Zone
Chemical Plant Zone
Sky Sanctuary Zone
Rival Boss- Metal Sonic
Boss- Death Egg

Area 2- Adventure
Speed Highway
City Escape
Seaside Hill
Rival Boss- Shadow
Boss- Perfect Chaos

Area 3- Modern
Crisis City
Rooftop Run
Planet Wisp
Rival Boss- Silver
Boss- Egg Dragoon (which I'm guessing equates to New EggRobo)

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I still have no idea why they decided to reuse the City theme several times. Seaside Hill was already stretching it but thankfully it'll probably have more of an ancient water palace theme.

I'm kind of interested about the DLC. Since the Casino stage is apparently a minigame, I'm not too excited for that. I'm wondering what else the "BONUS PREORDER CONTENT" includes.

-- PressTour ///< プレスツアー (4/12)
-- E3_Front ///< Electronic Entertainment Expo (7/7-9) 表
-- E3_Backyard ///< Electronic Entertainment Expo (7/7-9) 裏
-- GamesCom ///< GamesCom (8/17-21)
-- TGS ///< TokyoGameShow (9/15-18)
-- Trial_Ver1 ///< 体験版（その１） 4/15作成版
-- Trial_Ver2 ///< 体験版（その２） 本番リリースの前（９月か１０月）

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As pulled from the game by a Sonic Retro member, does this mean we'll get another demo?

Autosaver said:

Oh, the DLC argument comes up again.

I didn't really understand this but did you mean that they're releasing one of the better levels as DLC? I'm not so sure if it is a level, isn't it just a pinball stage?

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Sorry about the typo. It's been fixed.