RikkiandSparkey
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no I really do think this game is gonna be awesome...why?Is this... is this sarcasm? I´d assume so, but with so many new people around, one never knows.
no I really do think this game is gonna be awesome...why?Is this... is this sarcasm? I´d assume so, but with so many new people around, one never knows.
Starting off with the presentation, to use the modern Sonic design (especially after SEGA announced a return to their roots... again) is just giving the wrong message. For the classic Sonic fan, classic Sonic stands as the symbol of good times -- conversely, modern Sonic is an icon for a franchise that has lost its way (and honestly, I've always felt modern Sonic and the art style going along with him never looked good either, but that's another few paragraphs all by itself). By neglecting classic Sonic in trade for the modern design, immediately you're giving the classic fans a feeling of uncertainty and discomfort. Why not use the old design? Hell, if the game's supposed to be a blending of old and new, why not use that to the game's advantage to create a different design for Sonic that mixes characteristics of the old and new designs? As it stands, the presentation just seems a bit thoughtless. No, it won't directly affect the game, but it will echo bad vibes for me and some other classic fans. So, there's one reason why I'm hesitant to take the game seriously.
I agree wholeheartedly, that shit was getting old.Holy shit, thank you for posting. It pisses me off when people use "BAWW GREEN EYES" when regarding to classic fans upset about modern Sonic being used. It's a stupid generalization that misses about 90% of the point.
Sonic All Stars Racing: (Geez, I don´t even need to imitate a fantard here, I am pretty sure the entire community is aware of what fantards said to this)
So basically Sonic has to be classic to make the game good? You're saying it's hard to take the game seriously because of a graphic design? The reason why I think criticizing modern Sonic is pointless is because it has nothing to do with the game itself.
Is this to me?? im just asking because I'm not 100% sure...Quite an interesting post, especially the 2nd-to-4th line. That can be applied to nearly every recent Sonic game there´s been:
Fantard reasons of why Sonic games suck:
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Shadow the Hedgehog 2006: Shadow sucks because he uses weapons, it also sucks because he rides vehicles, he has fingers and foot to drive, but Shadow is not suppoused to ride vehicles, the game makes he look Emo, that sucks, it sucks, SEGA screwed it booo!
Sonic the Hedgehog 2006: It sucks because Shadow and Silver run slow, they got rid of the guns but still sucks because Shadow knows how to drive, and Silver runs slow, everyone in Sonic is suppoused to break the sound barrier and run at 350 Miles Per Hour !1!!!!!!1!!1! Also Sonic´s voice is gay, it sounds gay and that shits the entire game up. I havn´t played the game, but another fantard said it sucks, and he must be right!
Sonic Riders: Sucks!!! Sonic is not suppoused to be in a board, boards suck, it is a copy of Mario Kart because it is about racing! How could SEGA dare to do that? THEY TOTALLY COPIED MARIO KART BECAUSE THE GAME IS ABOUT RACING OMG!!! It sucks because when characters run out of oxigen, they have to run slower to recover their breathe, SONIC IZ SUP0UZED TO HAZ INFINITE STAMINAZ, HE MUST RUN FOREVAR!
Sonic Unleashed: Sonic Unleashed sucks because Sonic turns into a Werehog and goes slow, also he is not suppoused to fight, he is suppoused to run, and the game is too long, I don´t like long games, other franchises can be long, but Sonic must stay as a short games franchise!
Sonic Riders-Zero Gravity: Sonic is a cartoony blue hedgehog of the size of a human with white gloves, red shoes, can speak, goes faster than sound, can think and turns into a sphere trough spinning, but SEGA is stupid, controling gravity is stupid, it makes no sence, also, you shoudn´t be able to buy boards, Sonic is not suppoused to buy things, everyone should give him everything!.
Sonic and the Black Knight: OMG Sonic is using a sword, why is he using a sword? Enemies have armors that resist hits, but he should not use a blade, why is he using a blade? It makes no sence!
Sonic All Stars Racing: (Geez, I don´t even need to imitate a fantard here, I am pretty sure the entire community is aware of what fantards said to this)
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Ok, better keep a line betwen that and me, probably one of the things I hate the most about these complaints, is that people usually mentions SEGA, when it comes to design, altrough SEGA barely has anything to do with the game, it is suppoused to be designed and created by Sonic Team. SEGA are the owners and publishers.
In other words, everything that doesn't stay true to the classic formula is instantly wrong? You're not even giving real reasons other than "it's not supposed to be that way" or "it's gay and stupid and different lololol".<giant block of ridiculous text>
Or you couldn't think of anything because pretty much everybody thinks that it's a good game.
Is this to me?? im just asking because I'm not 100% sure...
So basically Sonic has to be classic to make the game good? You're saying it's hard to take the game seriously because of a graphic design? The reason why I think criticizing modern Sonic is pointless is because it has nothing to do with the game itself.
There is no significant design change between Duke Nukem Then and Duke Nukem Now that I can spot right off the bat, and it has absolutely no similarities with Sonic's situation, so the comparison of "character evolution" you made is lost on me. I understand what you're trying to point out, and it's that every character goes through newer design changes, which isn't a bad thing. But that's missing the point, and honestly, that's something I've wanted to address for a little while now anyway. Even if modern Sonic's design is fine, the artistic style used would still make him look poor. Hit the spoiler button for a huge wall of text. Unfortunately, the spoiler tag broke some of my formatting, so there's going to be a few long hyperlinks.Video game characters evolve all the time, look at Duke Nukem at his first game. Now look at the modern Duke Nukem. Is this worth complaining about? Of course not. It's exactly the same way with Sonic.
I don't want shit to be recycled. I want positive progression. To make new model like this might possibly be the best thing Sonic Team could have done for Sonic 4's appearance (especially since it imbues natural character evolution from the classic design in a way that looks good), along with new enemies in spirit of the old games' general badnik concepts, new bosses in faith of of the old games' general boss system, etc. etc. Sonic Team seems to have completely confused what exactly is the right way of expressing nostalgia, so what happens is that while the old Sonic games were full of creativity and style, everything I've seen in Sonic 4 so far has none of the creativity and none of the style, aside from an act or two... and that was only bits and pieces of new gimmicks anyway.The game is already recycled enough with the same badniks and levels designs and bosses. Now the character models have to be recycled too? I just find it ironic how people complain about recycled material, yet they want Sonic's design itself to be recycled.
The last leak we've seen was before they said they'll fix it, so eh...No changes to broken physics
The last leak we've seen was before they said they'll fix it, so eh...
Sure that wasn't the E3 demo?There was a video of Sonic 4 at the Tokyo Game Show showing off a pretty blatant physics bug, I don't think that was too long ago.
I recall SEGA themselves saying that they pushed the game back mainly to fix the physics.I recall someone saying that the staff isn't planning to make any major changes to the physics....
I don't. I trust the end product. Whatever, it's pointless discussing this, since we don't know why they delayed it. We'll see when it's out.And, if you believe your typical internet news sources
I know this doesn't relate to anything in the topic, but just ftr Shadow the Hedgehog was released in 2005 :xShadow the Hedgehog 2006
The game was long? It was fairly short?Sonic Unleashed sucks because Sonic turns into a Werehog and goes slow, also he is not suppoused to fight, he is suppoused to run, and the game is too long, I don´t like long games, other franchises can be long, but Sonic must stay as a short games franchise!
The game was long? It was fairly short?
You obviously haven't played many games if you think a 4-7 hour game is long. Most games I play are 10+ hours long.