PrismaticAngel
Dutch word-doer
Well, it most usually happens when I get the glitch of the only two emeralds appearing on the radar and then trying to return to the screen. I don't know why it happened bit it did.
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Just Someone
IIRC it's also against the rules to use copyrighted music, but that issue seems to have slid off in the last few years.
Nonono. See, you can HAVE copyrighted music included as long as it's for usage with an actual mod. If it's just a standalone music-only wad, however, that's when it crosses the boundaries of the rules.
EDIT: ...Or at least, that's how it was last I checked. The rules don't seem to mention the exception, so I'm not sure if my memory serves correct or not.
EDIT: ...Or at least, that's how it was last I checked. The rules don't seem to mention the exception, so I'm not sure if my memory serves correct or not.
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Violo
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Hah hah hah, no. the original STH360 Mod (by Thompson) didn't include music automatically, instead it was a separate download. Hell, I could play this whole mod without music. Music isn't that important, and by the way, you could use the SRB2 music. The Metal Sonic Battle music (tunes 24) would work for green Forest. Then the music wad could have a MAINCFG that changes the musicslot for each level.
ZX
Now 100% less jaded!
Well, I see a lot of people have posted tl;dr's, so I guess I'll be next on that list.
First off, 76.8 megabytes is too huge of a filesize. I started downloading it about an hour ago and it isn't even done yet (Connection sucks). You could at LEAST include the music in a seperate file.
Moving on to the textures... Take a little time to organize them properly. When they repeat ten trillion times, it becomes an eyesore (eyeburner, rather; my eyes still hurt from looking at them), and it kinda ruins the level. Try to be unique and NOT use textures from the original game. Yes, I understand you are trying to replicate it, but if it's not unique in any single way at all, it loses its appeal altogether. So you might want to take that into consideration.
Hmm, what else... Ah yes. The stage layouts. I understand you were trying to make them easier in some ways, and yes, that is unique... However, when you ruin the full fluent gameplay of the level as compared to its original (let's use Final Rush as an example here), it lacks. Who cares if the level is hard, who cares if it's easy. It can be thirty seconds long and I wouldn't care, so long as it has good appeal and a lot of uniqueness to it. Otherwise, I'll keep my hands off of that bread!
My final rating is 5/10. Work on improving some of the above listed things and I'll try it again then. But I emphasize, PLEASE lower the filesize. For the love of... well, my sanity and my bandwidth.
(Also, Luminous beat me to the punch as well, but meh, you get my point)
Thus ends my tl;dr.
First off, 76.8 megabytes is too huge of a filesize. I started downloading it about an hour ago and it isn't even done yet (Connection sucks). You could at LEAST include the music in a seperate file.
Moving on to the textures... Take a little time to organize them properly. When they repeat ten trillion times, it becomes an eyesore (eyeburner, rather; my eyes still hurt from looking at them), and it kinda ruins the level. Try to be unique and NOT use textures from the original game. Yes, I understand you are trying to replicate it, but if it's not unique in any single way at all, it loses its appeal altogether. So you might want to take that into consideration.
Hmm, what else... Ah yes. The stage layouts. I understand you were trying to make them easier in some ways, and yes, that is unique... However, when you ruin the full fluent gameplay of the level as compared to its original (let's use Final Rush as an example here), it lacks. Who cares if the level is hard, who cares if it's easy. It can be thirty seconds long and I wouldn't care, so long as it has good appeal and a lot of uniqueness to it. Otherwise, I'll keep my hands off of that bread!
My final rating is 5/10. Work on improving some of the above listed things and I'll try it again then. But I emphasize, PLEASE lower the filesize. For the love of... well, my sanity and my bandwidth.
(Also, Luminous beat me to the punch as well, but meh, you get my point)
Thus ends my tl;dr.
Jellybones
Lawful Neutral
The grass in City Escape looks more like puke, really.
You could just use normal SRB2 textures for certain places.
You could just use normal SRB2 textures for certain places.
ZX
Now 100% less jaded!
This.
Also, you really should do something about the arrangement of textures. I would like to play it, but I feel I'd vomit halfway through because of how some of them look in-game.
And yes, I saw the screenshots. Totally revamped or not, it's still an eyesore.
Okay, I found this mod slightly playable. I want to cover the main issues first before I go into levels.
-Put forcecharacter on for singleplayer, make it like the original.
-I made a test level on emerald hunt, it worked perfectly for me, why not you?
-Some of the gimmicks you could EASILY recreate, it's not that hard.
Okay, on to the levels.
City Escape - 2/5
Okay, the major problem is the textures. There aren't enough colorful buildings, like in the original. I don't remember the boarding part having a slope going up. But overall, it's okay, just fix the textures.
Wild Canyon - 1/5
Come on, you can do better than this. Don't place fans, use fan sectors. The pillars are horribly recreated, and unoriginal. Why aren't there dark areas underground? This level could use improvement.
Prison Lane - 1/5
Again, revisiting the gimmick issue. Don't use springs, use rising sectors.
Add some more dark grey, it looks bland.
Metal Harbor - 2/5
Too much light grey again. I don't remember the level having a lot of platforming, though you included it. Another big issue. REPEATED TEXTURES. Give it more originality.
Green Forest - 3/5
Wow, gotten better. But where are the waterfalls? There's also too much brown, hence the name Green Forest. You brought back the platforming though, good job!
Pumpkin Hill - 0/5
... Wow. This was TERRIBLE. Some of the structures looked the same. Add some cliff textures, they look like pillars. And don't put emerald spawns near eachother, most of the time, I have all three radar blinking on green.
Route 101 - 0/5
I don't remember close-by buildings in this. Like an earlier user said, if you can't do anything interesting with this, scrap it.
Hidden Base - 2/5
Gimmicks. AGAIN. You could easily make breakable sectors for the breakable walls. Three words. NOT. ENOUGH. RED. I remember this level having a distinct Yellow/Red feel to it.
Pyramid Cave - 0/5
... You ruined my favorite level in the game, good going. Again, mentioning the gimmicks issue. You could make those spike ball on chains, that would make it better. And the textures at the beginning made me puke three times. Add some originality.
Death Chamber - 4/5
I LIKED this level! You improved greatly here. Though the scale of the level is a bit small. And add some water, I remember a room that was FULL of water.
Eternal Engine - 3.5/5
Eh. Not the best level, but detailed. You made it look a lot like the original. Only a couple cons, the life room is obvious, change it.
Meteor Herd (However you spell it.) - 3.5/5
This was decent. Add a fan sector over the lava though, I don't remember death pits in this level. Again, GIMMICKS. Make some stuff breakable.
Final Rush - 0/5
I really don't want to say the word, you figure out what it is. There isn't enough platforming, like the original.
Overall - 22/65 (May have not added it up right, someone check, please?
-Put forcecharacter on for singleplayer, make it like the original.
-I made a test level on emerald hunt, it worked perfectly for me, why not you?
-Some of the gimmicks you could EASILY recreate, it's not that hard.
Okay, on to the levels.
City Escape - 2/5
Okay, the major problem is the textures. There aren't enough colorful buildings, like in the original. I don't remember the boarding part having a slope going up. But overall, it's okay, just fix the textures.
Wild Canyon - 1/5
Come on, you can do better than this. Don't place fans, use fan sectors. The pillars are horribly recreated, and unoriginal. Why aren't there dark areas underground? This level could use improvement.
Prison Lane - 1/5
Again, revisiting the gimmick issue. Don't use springs, use rising sectors.
Add some more dark grey, it looks bland.
Metal Harbor - 2/5
Too much light grey again. I don't remember the level having a lot of platforming, though you included it. Another big issue. REPEATED TEXTURES. Give it more originality.
Green Forest - 3/5
Wow, gotten better. But where are the waterfalls? There's also too much brown, hence the name Green Forest. You brought back the platforming though, good job!
Pumpkin Hill - 0/5
... Wow. This was TERRIBLE. Some of the structures looked the same. Add some cliff textures, they look like pillars. And don't put emerald spawns near eachother, most of the time, I have all three radar blinking on green.
Route 101 - 0/5
I don't remember close-by buildings in this. Like an earlier user said, if you can't do anything interesting with this, scrap it.
Hidden Base - 2/5
Gimmicks. AGAIN. You could easily make breakable sectors for the breakable walls. Three words. NOT. ENOUGH. RED. I remember this level having a distinct Yellow/Red feel to it.
Pyramid Cave - 0/5
... You ruined my favorite level in the game, good going. Again, mentioning the gimmicks issue. You could make those spike ball on chains, that would make it better. And the textures at the beginning made me puke three times. Add some originality.
Death Chamber - 4/5
I LIKED this level! You improved greatly here. Though the scale of the level is a bit small. And add some water, I remember a room that was FULL of water.
Eternal Engine - 3.5/5
Eh. Not the best level, but detailed. You made it look a lot like the original. Only a couple cons, the life room is obvious, change it.
Meteor Herd (However you spell it.) - 3.5/5
This was decent. Add a fan sector over the lava though, I don't remember death pits in this level. Again, GIMMICKS. Make some stuff breakable.
Final Rush - 0/5
I really don't want to say the word, you figure out what it is. There isn't enough platforming, like the original.
Overall - 22/65 (May have not added it up right, someone check, please?
STHE123O
Little Monster
City Escape.. i made a going up slope... and what? I know the real game didnt have it.
Green Forest is green. Wait to see the new version with the original BG and scenary
Pumpkin Hill... i think it s one of the best stages...
Route 101 isnt exactly like the SA2´s one. I know there arent buildings, they are just there to add more decoration.
Hidden base: I have added the breakable doors weeks ago
Pyramid Cave... it s the best i can do
Death Chamber isnt totally based on the original level. Only 3 rooms and the main one
Eternal Engine is longer now
Meteor Herd: the lava part was removed a week ago
Final Rush: wait to see the new one
Green Forest is green. Wait to see the new version with the original BG and scenary
Pumpkin Hill... i think it s one of the best stages...
Route 101 isnt exactly like the SA2´s one. I know there arent buildings, they are just there to add more decoration.
Hidden base: I have added the breakable doors weeks ago
Pyramid Cave... it s the best i can do
Death Chamber isnt totally based on the original level. Only 3 rooms and the main one
Eternal Engine is longer now
Meteor Herd: the lava part was removed a week ago
Final Rush: wait to see the new one
Violo
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Sorry, but you won't get anywhere if you disagree with everything that people tell you to improve.
Like the Pumpkin Hill stage you responded on, it isn't a good level, it's very hard to get around in and you can collect one emerald on Church Mountain and you finish it.
And the Pyramid cave thing, you didn't do the best you could. That starting room was way to cramped, and it has something to do with the springs the sigsegv strangely. You shoudl've remembered that the very first room in Pyramid Cave is very tall.
Also, a little advice, it's really hard to work on so many levels at once in a mod. Do one level at a time, it'll be a lot easier.
daiches99
Member
Completely agree with this, especially the sigsegv in piramid cave which I can only avoid by strafing past the middle bit which isn't too easy. Pumpkin hill isn't the best, maybe you could enlarge the places so you could get around easier, still though.
You should make something to switch the characters in stages, because if I choose Sonic, I will go with him in Tails and Knuckes stages
Sniperific
Member
SonicOmega, you really need to learn how to accept criticism, as your level designs are bad, cramped, and not good to look at.
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