I originally wasn't going to respond to this thread, but after seeing Sandwichface posting logs from Rob pertaining to his removal, I feel like I need to provide some clarity in the matter.
For context, here is what Sandwichface posted:
(The name of one of the individuals mentioned in the logs below has been censored at their request.)
Rob mentions that I was made a "temporary lead". This was not something I consented to, and was decided at a time when I was offline and didn't even have access to my PC. In the immediate discussion, there is no clarification about my position being temporary, nor did I treat it as such. This is something Rob and Prime decided retroactively.
"He took his select group of friends, rather than the whole moderation team, and then made policies and dumped them into the staff channel"
The context here is that I started drafting new policy the day I became server owner. Our previous lackluster policy had created massive issues for both staff and the community, and failed to hold staff members accountable for wrongdoings that would result in a permanent ban from any other community. I want you all to remember that this was Prime's response to Mystic accusing an active and well-known community member (and a personal friend of mine) of being a pedophile, with absolutely zero evidence to substantiate the claim:
Yes,
only 1 year for a permbannable offense.
Later, we drafted plans on how to address the community following Mystic's removal and the false accusation he made. Prime devised a 6-part plan that was longer than two entire backscrolls of the Discord channel. Several of us, primarily myself and Lach, disagreed with how he intended to go about it, and voiced this multiple times over the course of the conversation. We spent many, many hours trying to make sure he wouldn't go through with the steps he outlined, and in the end, he ignored us and did it his way instead:
When we confronted Prime about his overstep, Rob tried to flip the situation and blamed
me for it instead:
(Reminder: at the time of this screenshot, Rob was supposed to be banned from the community. He leaked the name of the person Mystic was accusing, and cosigned his false accusation after. He was instead secretly kept in the staff channel because he was coordinating the police report of a known pedophile who had resurfaced in the community prior to Mystic's false accusation. This was poor reasoning: he could have easily communicated the necessary information over DMs. He agreed not to act in an administrative capacity, but he continued to interject himself in staff matters despite him having effectively nothing to do with them at this point, as he was "banned" from the community. Below are logs of him and Prime acknowledging this.)
I took this as my cue to begin using my weight as server owner to enact changes for the better, particularly to do away with the old, barely existent moderation policy that led to this whole mess in the first place, and switch it for something better. This is what I wrote:
I did exactly as Rob said, and took point on what I believed to be our server's real emergency. I was immediately met with ridicule, lectures, and accusations that I was staging a coup on the server that I had legitimate ownership of. I refused to run a server that continued to use the embarrassing old policy that landed us in this mess, and I made that very clear. In writing the new policy, I consulted Charyb and other Kart Krew moderators for advice on how to present it, as Kart Krew uses effectively the same policy. Rob, Prime, and some others used this fact to accuse me of facilitating a Kart Krew takeover.
I refused to budge on adopting new policy, but after heated discussion I relented and put the matter to a vote. Those who believed I was staging a coup did not even participate in the vote, instead preferring to continue ridiculing me and demand I step down. Rob said I "took over half the people in that room" when in reality these were his moderators, personally approved by him. The fact that these were members of Kart Krew did not make their stances any less valid. Each of them had significant tenure in the community and dealt with day-to-day issues under the old policy. Rob immediately tried to discredit their opinions and invalidate the votes of Kart Krew members when, remember,
Rob was supposed to be banned.
"Threatening to split the community"
This is a very real thing Prime did on multiple occasions. Prime was the only one who even considered delisting the server from the website, there was no discussion about this. This was something he sought to do on his own initiative using the WordPress permissions that the entire dev team was unaware he had. You can see him alluding to this on multiple occasions here:
In one of these logs, he declares his intent to replace the server link with that of the SRB2 Community Server, a separate Discord run by Inazuma, who was not a developer at the time. Inazuma did not consent to this at all, and later expressed that this is not something he would have wanted.
"Personal threats against other staff members" / "Attempts to force his way into personal spaces of several community members"
Prime was not banned for making personal threats against staff members. Prime was banned for his aforementioned threats to split the community, his incredibly poor conduct, and for his attempt to worm his way into the private server of the person Mystic accused in order to "clear his name".
I want to remind you all that the things mentioned here are not even close to the true level of wrongdoings committed by Mystic, Rob, and Prime over the years. I only brought up what was relevant to the claims Rob made in the log above. If you want more details on just how much damage they collectively dealt to this community, don't take it from me alone, there is an entire thread of community members coming forward with their experiences under their leadership:
https://mb.srb2.org/threads/mystic-removal-discussion-the-good-and-the-bad.28532/
To Sandwichface: I don't know you. I have never spoken to you. The only thing I know about you is that you have continually caused unnecessary stress towards my staff and friends. I don't understand why you feel the need to spread weird narratives like this when there are pages worth of testimony from both staff and community members about how things really went down. Instead of having an open discussion with us, you chose to spread lies about us in your own spaces to your easily impressionable following. Even after you said you were done with this community, you still decided to post those logs and continue to misrepresent us. Please stop.
