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Shut it Auto, let the spectacle continue. Kthxbai.
Chaotic Chao
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(1)You're not getting this...
(2)Well, it's his opinion, and it's your opinion to say that it should be criticized.
(3)Truth wasn't made by humans. The concept was, but not truth itself. Kind of like...oxygen. It wasn't made by humans, but the concept of it being air, being breatheable by humans, and the like were made by humans.
(4)Yeah, but you never got to observe dinos either. Heck, the bones might even be organized all wrong in those museums. The only way to be able to prove it is to actually see a real dinosaur. And hell, atoms actually might look like dogs! Nobody knows! They only have a model.
(5)Yep. That proves it all. Can we drop this # now?
(6)Yep. That proves it all. Can we drop this # as well?
(7)Actually, I don't really think so. I mean, grasping the meaning of science is nearly as difficult as doing the same with truth. And you're right, it may be scientific, meaning that not everybody will agree on one theory. I mean, usually if they won't agree on one theory, it is scientific. It's almost an infinite looop. It's like I'm saying, "the theory isn't scientific, but you're right."
Like, I'm looking at a plant with pink flowers, that smells like pizza(XD) with 2 other people. I say, "It's a plant." The 2nd one says, "No, it's an object that can execute photosynthesis." The 3rd one says, "Nah. Obviously it's just what I need to make my garden look sexier." We wouldn't agree on the same things; technically, however, we're all right(Except for person 3, he was kind of a joke. XD).
(8)I don't think the Big Bang started at all. I mean, all the matter in the universe couldn't have compressed and instantly have formed an entire solar system. I mean, if I had to believe in something other than Creation, this is the last theory I'd believe in.
(9)He wasn't. He created the universe. He was even before time and space(Which I don't get at all, but hey, I'm only human).
(10)Oh, so within, like, a couple thousand years, we evolve fully, but in A LOT more time than that, we're still humans. Right. And what about all those missing links in the evolutionary tree? Explain those. And nobody can comprehend where God came from, duh. We're only human.
(11)Apes? A better concept? Please. Guess who's teaching apes and monkeys to do all this space-techno stuff?
Humans.
That doesn't mean we're perfect AT ALL, but we are the dominant species, clearly.
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Lol you can still post...
And in yet another classic example of you not getting it...
See my one post. Dress up silly, pep rally, we get it. You said nothing that hasn't been already said before. It's either we have a decent discussion or a meaningless one that's already run its course.
Autosaver
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By your logic, the thread was over with the first post.
Unless you mean the topic wasn't a good idea in the first place.
Well, considering pretty much every post on Spirit Week has consisted of "I have to dress up each day," I'd have to say so. I doubt at this point somebody's going to be like "AT MY SPIRIT WEEK WE HAD THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST" or something monumentally interesting like that, so I say we just have this frankly better conversation run its course then just let the thread die.
Uh yes I do. I also know what you meant. But to be precise, you are judging me in some way if you think we are opposites.
That's what I mean. I have no problem with criticizing opinions, as long as I don't automatically assume that whoever has that opinion is a bad person just because I disagree.
I know what you mean. But, for example, let's assume I was the only living creature that actually exists and everything around me was just a hallucination. That would mean that you don't exist, even though I could prove the opposite. The only truth we can ever accept is the one we can prove, but that doesn't necessarily mean it actually is true.
Imagine we'd find a fossil of a modern dino that lived a few years ago. If we compared the bones to that of a dino that lived millions of years, we'd find that they are the same. That hasn't happened yet, unless of course they evolved into something different, in which case evolution is actually true.
The problem lies in the way you define science. Science doesn't only consist of theories that might or might not be true. Everything that we know is true is science as well. But I don't think that's really relevant for our discussion.
It's not like directly after the Big Bang the universe was already fully formed. Solar systems didn't exist for a very long time, they first had to be formed.
You don't "get" the concept of a God, yet you believe in it. You don't "get" the concept of the Big Bang either, yet you don't believe in that one either. The question is why you believe in one but not in the other even if both sound illogical to you.
Wrong. Who said we'll still be humans in the future? We might evolve into something totally different (Well, not totally different, but something different enough to be called a new species). For example, the modern homo sapiens evolved out of, for example, the much less intelligent and much more ape-like homo erectus, while the Neanderthals simply got extinct. The homo erectus itself evolved out of another form of humans that was even more ape-like and so on.
If you want me to do that, you will obviously need to give me examples. But missing links exist most of the time because we haven't found the relevant fossils yet and will possibly never find them. You know, not every animal that dies leaves behind remains that we can find millions of years after that.
If nobody can comprehend where God came from, why do you believe he exists?
We are the dominant species now. But who says we will be the dominant species in the future. Things like climate change could, in a worst-case scenario, wipe the Earth from all humans. A similar thing happened to dinosaurs, who were clearly dominant. Yet, they disappeared, most likely because a big meteor hit the Earth.
RikkiandSparkey
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hmm I never dress up for spirit day...infact me and my friends make fun of all the kids who do XD sorry... their allways the suck up kids in my school! the STRAIGHT A+ SUCK UP'S! god how i despise them... -_-
Ah. Well, we're in complete agreement, then.
In general, I agree...personal religious beliefs can be a wonderful thing, but intercede worship of a deity through a powerful organization and problems will begin.
Also, that's kind of ironic...lucky you don't live in the United States, because I just read an article exposing anti-Buddhist sentiment in America. They are apparently distrusted more than atheists--and I sometimes have to be a bit careful about who I discuss my atheist views with--and only slightly less than Muslims (of course, it is a very ill-disguised secret that Muslims are disliked in the United States. My mom is quite anti-Islam, and sometimes I find it difficult to come up with counterarguments to her reasoning).
Anti-Buddhists? Hell, what have Buddhists done wrong? That said, I'm not really a Buddhist. I don't believe in reincarnation (as in, I think it's possible, but I have no idea if it actually happens), nor do I respect animals they way a real Buddhist should (because meat is just too tasty).
And the anti-Muslim sentiment... Well, Islam happens to have the most radical radicalists of any big religion, and that's the problem. I have no issues with Islam in itself or with Muslims, but they simply have the highest amount of hateful radical extremists (although Christianity is probably a rather close second). That still doesn't make the strong anti-Muslim sentiment right though, and I still laugh at those who actually think that building a mosque near the World Trade Center could be a potential terroristic danger.
And the anti-Muslim sentiment... Well, Islam happens to have the most radical radicalists of any big religion, and that's the problem. I have no issues with Islam in itself or with Muslims, but they simply have the highest amount of hateful radical extremists (although Christianity is probably a rather close second). That still doesn't make the strong anti-Muslim sentiment right though, and I still laugh at those who actually think that building a mosque near the World Trade Center could be a potential terroristic danger.
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