Netlink- HELP NEEDED!

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Well, Pikawil, be glad, it's a lesson that is true and really does happen.

Mystic, I'm glad you enjoy making a fool out of me,
and convincing the ENTIRE BOARD that my Netlink version of SRB2
is complete and utter crap.
 
Sorry, SRB2, but Mystic is right about this. Making an incompatible version is a Bad Idea. As is making it with a hex editor now that the source is released. I mean, what's up with that?

As someone who's been made a fool in front of entire boards before, a few words of advice: First, you haven't been nearly as badly humiliated as you think. I mean, who's going to read all that IRC crap anyway? Second, you can redeem yourself completely if you make something cool, like a great SRB2 wad. Single player levels are in demand, and as long as you make one big enough and multiple-pathy enough, everyone will love it, and forget that you ever did anything worthy of this supposed humiliation.

What happened to the Heroes fangame you were going to make using SRB2's engine, anyway? Now that the source is out, you could do that, and since it would be a totally new game, that would be cool too.
 
Then make a WAD file. Many people have built their reputation on them, me included. Just about anything is better than hex editing srb2win.exe.

I'll also have you know that that IRC log is from #srb2netgame. It was completely public. It's not like I didn't post anything that wasn't already publicly known to those who go to IRC. You already publicly humiliated yourself. I just made it known to more people.

Also, where did I abuse my op powers? I never kicked you or did anything of the sort. If you think arguing a point is abusing my powers, you're in for a real shock when someone actually DOES abuse power.
 
I can't believe this. When was this anyway. I'm at #srb2netgame almost everyday. I normally see when #srb2netgame is flashing red. I would have loved to inject my own comments...
 
doink

Ok, I'll rephrase..

What makes netlink different from normal SRB2?
 
Not much...
It was a little home project that spanned many different things.

A few altered strings, graphics, and a TINY bug fixed in the normal was as far as 0.2x got

For the last day that the Netlink lives, I will be hosting on #srb2netlink 0.4, and you'll just have to wait to see what that contains. One day later, all support of Netlink will be completley shut down.

I kind of wish it hadn't gotten as out of hand as it had, if so, I would probably go up to 1.0. EXEs cause confusion, confusion causes n00bs, and everybody hates n00bs.
 
?!? I'm still pretty lost... Mystic is mean, a441 is on Mystic's side, SSNTails is just talking....Did I mention that I thought Mystic was mean? yeah, because he is.
 
I'd scold you for bumping this topic, but I think it would be more amusing to just post the query log, because the rest of us already got a good laugh out of it. I guess she was expecting me to listen to her demands or insult her or something...go figure. Log is censored by the board for profanity, but all the ****s are the f word.

Session Start: Sun Mar 07 10:51:38 2004
Session Ident: DarkstalkerRouge
[10:51] Session Ident: DarkstalkerRouge (~sonknuck2@modemcable079.217-201-24.mc.videotron.ca)
[10:51] <DarkstalkerRouge> Hello.
[10:51] <DarkstalkerRouge> Hello?
[10:52] <DarkstalkerRouge> hmph.....rude.
[10:52] <DarkstalkerRouge> how rude.
Session Close: Sun Mar 07 17:37:11 2004

Session Start: Wed Mar 10 07:17:39 2004
Session Ident: DarkstalkerRouge
[07:17] Session Ident: DarkstalkerRouge (~sonknuck2@modemcable079.217-201-24.mc.videotron.ca)
[07:17] <DarkstalkerRouge> Hello?
Session Close: Wed Mar 10 13:56:40 2004

Session Start: Wed Mar 10 21:38:03 2004
Session Ident: DarkstalkerRouge
[21:38] Session Ident: DarkstalkerRouge (~sonknuck2@modemcable079.217-201-24.mc.videotron.ca)
[21:38] <DarkstalkerRouge> Hello?
[21:38] <Mystic> Yes?
[21:38] <DarkstalkerRouge> I heard you trashed SRB2's Idea for SRB2 Netlink.
[21:38] <DarkstalkerRouge> I read a post on the message boards.
[21:38] <Mystic> Uh huh
[21:38] <DarkstalkerRouge> Well....
[21:38] <DarkstalkerRouge> Why?
[21:39] <Mystic> #1: You can't add much with a hex editor
[21:39] <Mystic> #2: Newbies are retards, and I get all the mail
[21:39] <DarkstalkerRouge> Are you calling SRB2 a retard?
[21:39] <Mystic> no
[21:39] <DarkstalkerRouge> Ok.
[21:39] <DarkstalkerRouge> Just checking.
[21:39] <Mystic> I'm saying that the whole point of the 1.08 release was to make it so there was only 1 exe floating around
[21:40] <Mystic> because I get the mail when something goes wrong
[21:40] <DarkstalkerRouge> That I can understand...
[21:40] <DarkstalkerRouge> Hmm...
[21:40] <Mystic> as the update says: "v1.08 is now available. It's not everything I wanted 1.1 to be - this is mostly just to eliminate all the 'patch' confusion, stabilize multiplayer, and provide mappers with more things to work with.
[21:40] <DarkstalkerRouge> Well, you did'nt have to TOTALLY destroy SRB2's spirit.
[21:40] <DarkstalkerRouge> he's upset now.
[21:40] <Mystic> Well it's hard not to when he keeps going on that long
[21:40] <DarkstalkerRouge> He's telling me about how SRB2 Netlink was "hated".
[21:41] <DarkstalkerRouge> It's just in-polite.
[21:41] <Mystic> well it's not wanted by most of the community, really
[21:41] <Mystic> it adds unnecessary confusion where it isn't necessary
[21:41] <DarkstalkerRouge> ..
[21:41] <DarkstalkerRouge> So you trash his idea's when he's not wanted?!?
[21:41] <DarkstalkerRouge> Your not god you know.
[21:42] <Mystic> no, I'm not
[21:42] <DarkstalkerRouge> Your a person, just like me and SRB2.
[21:42] <DarkstalkerRouge> That does'nt mean you can put him down in public.
[21:42] <Mystic> he wouldn't listen in private
[21:42] <Mystic> Because I'm a person, I have these things called emotions
[21:43] <DarkstalkerRouge> So, Because he would'ent litsen, you could'ent leave it be?
[21:43] <Mystic> and when someone is making something that has the potential to ruin the whole reason I pushed for 1.08, I'm going to fight it a long damn time, ya know
[21:43] <DarkstalkerRouge> He did'nt ruin it.
[21:43] <Mystic> I said "potential"
[21:43] <DarkstalkerRouge> He just wanted to start his own thing. ANd he did. But you put it down.
[21:43] <DarkstalkerRouge> I hope your happy.
[21:43] <Mystic> and I said there are plenty of good ways to do that
[21:44] <Mystic> SRB2 Netlink Edition is a bad way, and there are plenty of good ways
[21:44] <DarkstalkerRouge> What was one of them, "Trash SRB2's spirit?"
[21:44] <Mystic> source editing, wad design, etc.
[21:44] <DarkstalkerRouge> That's just plain mean.
[21:44] <Mystic> Were you in the room during the conversation?
[21:45] <Mystic> Because I'll have you know, I was very civil about it
[21:45] <DarkstalkerRouge> Do i care? Litsen, I don't think you'll like me that much, because when someone else is put down out there, I have to stand up for them.
[21:45] <DarkstalkerRouge> And I won't just watch this go by.
[21:45] * Mystic rolls his eyes
[21:46] <DarkstalkerRouge> If he want's to start his own project, then his own project he will start.
[21:46] <Mystic> how about listening to my perspective
[21:46] <DarkstalkerRouge> Yeah,
[21:46] <Mystic> he doesn't have to take what I say and feel down about it
[21:46] <Mystic> It's not my fault that the rest of the channel agreed with me, either
[21:46] <DarkstalkerRouge> But he did.
[21:46] <DarkstalkerRouge> Litsen.
[21:46] <Mystic> No.
[21:46] <Mystic> You listen.
[21:46] <DarkstalkerRouge> ?!?
[21:46] <Mystic> I've been listening to you talk, now it's my turn
[21:46] <DarkstalkerRouge> You did'nt just say that to me.
[21:47] <Mystic> Yes, I did
[21:47] <DarkstalkerRouge> No you did'nt.
[21:47] <DarkstalkerRouge> You better watch yourself.
[21:47] <DarkstalkerRouge> Ok?
[21:47] <Mystic> Why?
[21:47] <DarkstalkerRouge> I won't be talked to like that.
[21:47] <Mystic> I don't like being called someone who destroys someone else's ego
[21:47] <DarkstalkerRouge> You destroyed his spirit. He's depressed because of you.
[21:47] <Mystic> that is incorrect
[21:48] <Mystic> He is depressed because he is depressed
[21:48] <Mystic> I will not take responsibility for that
[21:48] <Mystic> I may be one of the reasons he feels depressed, but there are many other reasons
[21:48] <DarkstalkerRouge> He told me he's depressed because of your SRB2 Netlink Trashing.
[21:48] <Mystic> as someone who gets depressed easily, I know that full-well
[21:48] <DarkstalkerRouge> And that fact that "Everyone hates him".
[21:48] <Mystic> if you care that much, I'll give you the log
[21:48] <Mystic> one second
[21:49] <Mystic> dear god...it's up to 5 MB
[21:49] <Mystic> this might take a bit
[21:50] <Mystic> e-mail?
[21:50] <DarkstalkerRouge> Yeah, sure.
[21:51] <DarkstalkerRouge> Litsen...I don't wan't to hate you, I just wan't to make sure your not trashing SRB2.
[21:51] <Mystic> I can't mail you the log without your e-mail =P
[21:51] <Mystic> I'm not
[21:51] <Mystic> I told him to cease and desist
[21:51] <DarkstalkerRouge> sonknuck23@lycos.com
[21:51] <Mystic> whether he takes that as "I hate you" is his mind
[21:51] <DarkstalkerRouge> Well just tell him, "I don't hate you".
[21:51] <DarkstalkerRouge> That,s all I wan't from you.
[21:52] <DarkstalkerRouge> That's**
[21:52] <Mystic> But it's not my job
[21:52] <DarkstalkerRouge> ..
[21:52] <Mystic> You don't seem to understand something here
[21:52] <DarkstalkerRouge> Your getting on my nerves...
[21:52] <DarkstalkerRouge> What is it?!?
[21:52] <Mystic> just because I say that will not change the way he feels
[21:53] <Mystic> I've been depressed before
[21:53] <DarkstalkerRouge> It may..
[21:53] <Mystic> he's going to have to get out of it on his own
[21:53] <DarkstalkerRouge> I'm always depressed. Spend some time on #srb2fun, you'll see..
[21:53] <DarkstalkerRouge> People have had to help me.
[21:53] <DarkstalkerRouge> Maybe that's what SRB2 needs..
[21:53] <Mystic> well I give opinions to those who ask
[21:54] <Mystic> If he asks, I will tell him that I don't hate him
[21:54] <Mystic> but I will not initaite the conversation
[21:54] <DarkstalkerRouge> He won't ask..
[21:54] <Mystic> I know
[21:54] <DarkstalkerRouge> I will.
[21:54] <DarkstalkerRouge> I'll tell him you don't hate him..
[21:54] <Mystic> You are not SRB2
[21:54] <DarkstalkerRouge> How's that?
[21:54] <DarkstalkerRouge> I'm Alexia...
[21:54] <DarkstalkerRouge> O.o;
[21:54] <Mystic> I don't care what you do, really
[21:54] <DarkstalkerRouge> ...
[21:55] <DarkstalkerRouge> Your really mean.
[21:55] <DarkstalkerRouge> You can't do it yourself.
[21:55] <Mystic> no, I'm blunt
[21:55] <DarkstalkerRouge> Your Selfish, You only care about yourself.
[21:55] <Mystic> you know what "blunt" means?
[21:55] <DarkstalkerRouge> You don't care about other's feelings.
[21:55] <DarkstalkerRouge> YES I DO.
[21:55] <DarkstalkerRouge> I'M NOT STUPID.
[21:55] <DarkstalkerRouge> Now litsen.
[21:55] <Mystic> "blunt" != "selfish"
[21:55] <DarkstalkerRouge> You just have to learn to care about others.
[21:55] <Mystic> I mailed the log
[21:55] <Mystic> I do
[21:55] <DarkstalkerRouge> Ok then.
[21:56] <Mystic> I just don't sugar coat things
[21:56] <Mystic> it does two things, one positive, one negative:
[21:56] <DarkstalkerRouge> I've had enough of you.
[21:56] <Mystic> negative: People can take it the wrong way
[21:56] <DarkstalkerRouge> Just shut up.
[21:56] <DarkstalkerRouge> I don't care.
[21:56] <Mystic> positive: People believe what you say as true
[21:56] <DarkstalkerRouge> If I we're you, I'd stop right now.
[21:56] <Mystic> Well, you initiated the conversation
[21:56] <Mystic> why?
[21:56] <DarkstalkerRouge> I'm tired of this.
[21:56] <DarkstalkerRouge> Just stop.
[21:56] <DarkstalkerRouge> Ok?
[21:57] <Mystic> You started the conversation, and you do not have the ability to end it
[21:57] <DarkstalkerRouge> ? I have the ability to do whatever the F*** I wan't.
[21:57] <Mystic> well so do I, to be blunt
[21:57] <Mystic> and you can't tell me to stop talking
[21:57] <DarkstalkerRouge> pft..
[21:58] <Mystic> and unfortunately for you, I happen to have power AND I can do whatever the fuck I want
[21:58] <Mystic> which puts me in a better situation than you
[21:58] <DarkstalkerRouge> Like I said, "Your not god."
[21:58] <DarkstalkerRouge> So shut the F*** up.
[21:58] <Mystic> If you're going to accuse me, you'd better be prepared to have me talk back to you
[21:58] <Mystic> No.
[21:59] <Mystic> and around here I am, simply put
[21:59] <DarkstalkerRouge> What the fuck? Who do you think you are.
[21:59] <DarkstalkerRouge> Your putting people down.
[21:59] <DarkstalkerRouge> That's not right.
[21:59] <Mystic> no, I'm telling them the truth
[21:59] <DarkstalkerRouge> I don,t have time for your s***.
[21:59] <DarkstalkerRouge> Shut up.
[21:59] <Mystic> I don't go out of my way to put people down
[21:59] <DarkstalkerRouge> yes you do apparently.
[22:00] <Mystic> That's quite interesting
[22:00] <Mystic> because I don't have any entertainment out of doing it
[22:00] <Mystic> if I went out of my way to do it, I'd think I'd enjoy it
[22:00] <DarkstalkerRouge> Litsen, I have to go now. Just remember what you did tonight, you put 2 people down.
[22:00] <Mystic> in fact, I rather dislike doing that
[22:00] <DarkstalkerRouge> And one of thems me.
[22:00] <Mystic> How have I put you down?
[22:00] <DarkstalkerRouge> So shut the fuck up.
[22:00] <Mystic> I've talked back to you
[22:00] <Mystic> and not agreed with you
[22:00] <Mystic> I haven't said "You're a fucktard, asshole."
[22:00] <DarkstalkerRouge> Shut up.
[22:00] <DarkstalkerRouge> Fuck you.
[22:01] <Mystic> Wow. You know profanity is a good sign of a baseless argument, right?
[22:01] <DarkstalkerRouge> Fuck off.
Session Close: Wed Mar 10 22:02:28 2004
 
LOL.... Mystic, you used one of my quotes to end the conversation. :lol:

Yeah, usually in stuff like this, Mystic is mean, a441 is agreeing with Mystic, and there I am, just talking like a babbling old lunatic.
 
This is why I just pop into places to ban and leave in a puff of smoke like a dark-clad ninja. :P
 
Wow... mabey I would've been better off if I didn't know it was happening...

Anyways, I have some agreements to both sides. DSR, I really want to thank you for sticking up for me, and it really helped. It's people like you that make my un-depressed moments great.

Mystic, it's past March 5th, meaning the Netlink is *PUBLICLY* dead. I wouldn't really have done this is it weren't for you, but at least you'll stop getting these "emails" about the Netlink. THAT WOULD BE MY JOB.

Nonetheless, the Netlink IS still alive AND in development. It's just private.
Ask anybody who goes to #srb2netlink (And knows the key). I've done this, so that everybody wins. I get to develop, and you are free of teh n00bs. If you (And everybody else) can't accept this, deal with it.

I am depressed, however, the Netlink isn't the only reason (Nudge Nudge Chao World Nudge Nudge). However, this is outside the scope of this topic. Mystic, learn to live with yours. It's what I've been doing for years.
 
Yeah. This sucks. This all sucks. I'm an idiot. Way to go DSR. *Smacks self* What was I thinking? I argue with some guy to get laughed at. I love it when this happens.(Sarcasm)
 
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