Jeck Jims' MD2s 2.0's Final Update
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I think its just the way that SRB2CB handels models without textures that caused the problem.
All that I know is that its a (red?) skateboard... can't tell much about what it looks like.. If you find a good pic for me sure I will.
FireBat257
The Burning Bat of Flames.
You must have made a mistake in the MD2 Dat Edition. I'll have a little tour for you.
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Yes, I didn't even think of that. Actually, those four numbers don't do anything, I put them in there to remind myself not to put new entries on the bottom, for some reason, when I did, they weren't recognized, so now I just put new things directly after "PLAY."
FireBat257
The Burning Bat of Flames.
So you mean, like the top. Bottom from Play you get to put on the models and it would still work? Oh, by the way. Do those numbers need to be there or will I be able to delete them and the Models still work?
FireBat257
The Burning Bat of Flames.
Have a look at this. I mixed the Sonic Colors' play.md2 with the Red Sonic Sim Model, and here's what it looks like,
Pretty weird huh? Eyes are orange, and no armor because the mix up. Actually, the armor is... The jumps/spins look. Seems we're having new discoveries about the models...
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FireBat257
The Burning Bat of Flames.
Is this in SRB2CB or something?
The top is just a plain red with one vertical stripe of white on it. But that should be enough to help you.
Sky The Destroyer
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That's in the Sonic Generations City Escape Trailer.
Ah, Jeck, I know what the problem is with SRB2CB using shields & emeralds.
Those MD2s purposely don't have a texture, so the game just uses a 'left over' textures on the MD2.
In SRB2CB, the MD2s don't work like in other SRB2 versions because you're actually using a bug with how regular SRB2 handles MD2s - an MD2 uses the sprite's texture when an MD2 doesn't have its own png. (But it shouldn't it do that, it should make the MD2 white when it doesn't have a texture)
This shield/emerald method is hacky, MD2 models deserve better.
So, in the next version of SRB2CB we're going to give MD2s the real support they deserve - the ability to:
We can just add brand new options for MD2s, you don't have to deal with work-arounds anymore.
(And we're giving MD2s even more love :P )
Those MD2s purposely don't have a texture, so the game just uses a 'left over' textures on the MD2.
In SRB2CB, the MD2s don't work like in other SRB2 versions because you're actually using a bug with how regular SRB2 handles MD2s - an MD2 uses the sprite's texture when an MD2 doesn't have its own png. (But it shouldn't it do that, it should make the MD2 white when it doesn't have a texture)
This shield/emerald method is hacky, MD2 models deserve better.
So, in the next version of SRB2CB we're going to give MD2s the real support they deserve - the ability to:
- Have an MD2 use multiple pngs for different colors
- Option to load MD2s from wad files so we don't have to use the MD2 folder and MD2.dat and modders can do things like make new objects that have MD2s built in. Plus, objects like a skateboard for instance, pretty much NEED an MD2 by default :P )
- Option to have MD2s use the sprite texture for backwards compatability (if you still like making some MD2s use this method)
We can just add brand new options for MD2s, you don't have to deal with work-arounds anymore.
(And we're giving MD2s even more love :P )
In return for your epicness, I will be glad to make any Model you need, skateboard, tree, anything you need. Just name it!
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I already started the skateboard based on Sonic Generations trailer.
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I already started the skateboard based on Sonic Generations trailer.
FireBat257
The Burning Bat of Flames.
Will every character be able to use this? Or just Young Sonic with the Skateboard.md2 in Young Sonic's folder?
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Ah. I didn't know. I don't check for the S.G. Trailers these days. =/
While the skateboard is ok, I think it'd be more interesting to have decks based off Adventure/DX's snowboards. That, and since these "skate"boards can apparently travel on water and have the Riders board appearance, perhaps an extreme gear wouldn't be out of the question?
In return for your epicness, I will be glad to make any Model you need, skateboard, tree, anything you need. Just name it!
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I already started the skateboard based on Sonic Generations trailer.
Jeck, you're awesome. Thank you so much.
Your MD2 skills are getting pretty good, and I want to give you some suggestions on how I think some of the MD2s could be improved.
(and I can also do some more code modding to help improve your MD2s)
I'm going to concentrate on the classic MD2s because I think they could really build on the kind of classic look SRB2 is trying to replicate - but in 3D.
Classic Tails:
-The style you choose for when his tails are spinning is PERFECT, it makes the MD2 feel more like a cartoon - which is how it's supposed to be. (Plus the way you do it works really well with something else I'm planning to do with MD2s in the future
-The tails should not be up in the standing position, I know the sprite does this, but having the tails stand straight up is something that doesn't look good in 3D
-Walking and running animations are perfect
-Now here's something you'll need help to fix, some people say MD2s are "lifeless" - this is largely because you can't easily just make the character's eyelids close, or make their mouth move. I think per-state png's need to be done so MD2s can be far more lively
You can tell me if there's any details you want with how to set this up, but I was thinking of having it like:
NAMEOFMD2_A.png, NAMEOFMD2_B.png, etc. So you can control the png for every frame if you wanted, and the game would use the default NAMEOFMD2.png if the file for a specific frame is not found.
So when that feature comes, you can:
Make Tails eye lids half closed when he's yawning,
Make his eyelids look determined when running like >:-(
Have a sad facial expression when he dies,
Etc. - you know, control of facial expressions and other things like that
I think Classic Tails is the closest MD2 to being perfect, I'll continue reviewing the other classic models later.
You're doing a really good job, Jeck, if your need any new features for MD2s, just say so! (And I'll try helping you with the actual MD2 models too if you want)
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