Evil!!!!!!
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firemario1001
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akirahedgehog said:
That's not the greatest thing. You're forgetting Ultmate Doom!
And Furyhunter refered to GTA as crap Mystic, so that's why I said that.
No, not evil.
What, there's BLOOD? OH NO! Come on now, if you're actually sickened or disturbed by blood spewing out of someone's neck after their head having been mutilated by a gunshot IN A VIDEO GAME, which is NOT REAL, you obviously have bigger problems than violent video games not having been hidden from your virgin eyes. For god's sake, it doesn't even look realistic. I could understand if they made it look real, but I just laugh at it because it looks so fake.
But, I will agree with the rating system, when it is used properly. It's meant for parents to know what their kid is playing. Parents need to learn how to once again take responsibility and care for their children properly instead of letting someone else handle it. That's why we have crap like 4Kids taking anime and removing all the violence, naughty words, religious references, and all other controversial material in order to make it wholesome viewing material for all the innocent little kids. If your child sees violence and then decides to go shoot up his school, it's not the fault of the video game. It's the fault of the dumbass kid and/or dumbass parent that didn't raise their child properly. That M rating is there to let parents know that the game is violent. I applaud your father, akira, for his presence of mind to understand just what ratings mean, and take action accordingly.
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What, there's BLOOD? OH NO! Come on now, if you're actually sickened or disturbed by blood spewing out of someone's neck after their head having been mutilated by a gunshot IN A VIDEO GAME, which is NOT REAL, you obviously have bigger problems than violent video games not having been hidden from your virgin eyes. For god's sake, it doesn't even look realistic. I could understand if they made it look real, but I just laugh at it because it looks so fake.
But, I will agree with the rating system, when it is used properly. It's meant for parents to know what their kid is playing. Parents need to learn how to once again take responsibility and care for their children properly instead of letting someone else handle it. That's why we have crap like 4Kids taking anime and removing all the violence, naughty words, religious references, and all other controversial material in order to make it wholesome viewing material for all the innocent little kids. If your child sees violence and then decides to go shoot up his school, it's not the fault of the video game. It's the fault of the dumbass kid and/or dumbass parent that didn't raise their child properly. That M rating is there to let parents know that the game is violent. I applaud your father, akira, for his presence of mind to understand just what ratings mean, and take action accordingly.
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I agree. Parents should take the ratings on the box more seriously. I mean, if they see 'Rated M for mature, mild nudity', and an 11 year old is asking for it, I'm not sure if the parent will say yes. I would understand if they buy them a T game(I.E. Super Smash Brothers Melee). And so, I rest my case
firemario1001
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I'll never understand why Super Smash Bros. Melee got a "T" rating though.
No offence, but why can't the kids of the nation just ignore adults? What's exactly wrong about learning stuff earlier than their supposed to, rather than going out and wasting all their savings when they're 18, instead of getting a college education?
Now, if it was a sex game, I WOULD agree, since it's illegal to have sex under 18, for that, there are laws. But a killing spree downtown isn't limited to ages, is it?
Personally, I've never had a problem with my Parents. They often let me see 15 movies, and 12 movies when I was 9... and they still do. (And we're talking IN the cinema. SHOCK, HORROR!).
Back when I played games like Doom... wait, that says it all. I played Doom when I was about 6 years old. A load of red pixels... oh brilliant, that's going to SO turn a kid into a bad person. Now, if you excuse me, I'm going to turn that red into green and everything else remotely violent into Smily Faces. G'day.
Ps: If I turn the blood into a sticky white substance, would that work? *shot*
Now, if it was a sex game, I WOULD agree, since it's illegal to have sex under 18, for that, there are laws. But a killing spree downtown isn't limited to ages, is it?
Personally, I've never had a problem with my Parents. They often let me see 15 movies, and 12 movies when I was 9... and they still do. (And we're talking IN the cinema. SHOCK, HORROR!).
Back when I played games like Doom... wait, that says it all. I played Doom when I was about 6 years old. A load of red pixels... oh brilliant, that's going to SO turn a kid into a bad person. Now, if you excuse me, I'm going to turn that red into green and everything else remotely violent into Smily Faces. G'day.
Ps: If I turn the blood into a sticky white substance, would that work? *shot*
firemario1001
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Actually whether you've realized it or not, our society is progressively becoming more tolerent toward those kinds of things. Albeit slowly though.
Of course, and our society is also more tolerant of having women with as little clothing as possible dance in music videos for no reason other than the fact that they have tits. Doesn't mean I LIKE that that is where society is going.
And what's the difference between porn and violence? Just because one is legal and one isn't doesn't mean both aren't bad. It's like comparing cigarettes and pot. Same difference, just one is against the law.
Personally, I'd rather my children watch porn than watch violence. At least sex can be a wonderful thing in the real world, as it can symbolize a union between two people. Violence is bad no matter what angle you look at it.
And what's the difference between porn and violence? Just because one is legal and one isn't doesn't mean both aren't bad. It's like comparing cigarettes and pot. Same difference, just one is against the law.
Personally, I'd rather my children watch porn than watch violence. At least sex can be a wonderful thing in the real world, as it can symbolize a union between two people. Violence is bad no matter what angle you look at it.
Omega the Hedgehog
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Meh, I don't see what the big deal is about. If you're talking about how terrible the media protrays violent video games, think about it. The media also has damn bad things in it too, in case you haven't noticed. Though that still wouldn't convince somebody to let go of the rating system, it proves a small point. Besides, the vast majority of T games aren't terrible, and a lot of older M-games such as Doom aren't nearly as bad as today's counterparts.
Have you even begun to realize what role society has to play in this, either? No matter what, there is always going to be the one kid who gets these excessivly adult games. When he goes to school and interacts with the other children, they become a part of it too, and so no matter what you will eventually be exposed to this content, no matter how hard parents try to keep you out of it.
I have been drawing pr0n since I was nine. I have been playing viloent games since... well, they came out. I may have this view on this kind of stuff because I was exposed so early, but it may also be because the reasons are logical and true.
My idea on this is if you're responsible enough to handle the stuff, then go ahead. If you aren't, wait until you are older and can accept that the facts of life are everywhere.
I rest my case
*cracks his knuckles, because his hand hurts right about now*
On a side note, 10,000th post on the MB! *hosts a party on JTE's SRB2SPMoves game*
Have you even begun to realize what role society has to play in this, either? No matter what, there is always going to be the one kid who gets these excessivly adult games. When he goes to school and interacts with the other children, they become a part of it too, and so no matter what you will eventually be exposed to this content, no matter how hard parents try to keep you out of it.
I have been drawing pr0n since I was nine. I have been playing viloent games since... well, they came out. I may have this view on this kind of stuff because I was exposed so early, but it may also be because the reasons are logical and true.
My idea on this is if you're responsible enough to handle the stuff, then go ahead. If you aren't, wait until you are older and can accept that the facts of life are everywhere.
I rest my case
*cracks his knuckles, because his hand hurts right about now*
On a side note, 10,000th post on the MB! *hosts a party on JTE's SRB2SPMoves game*
Omega the Hedgehog
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I'm not implying that. I'm saying that I believe maturity comes from responsibility and well, maturity. Not double-digit numbers.
But also, I'm on the same angle as Mystic in one thing: I would rather have my kids watching and learning about sex then violence. Not because I like it, because it's a thing that is MEANT to happen and is actually something they SHOULD learn as apposed to just being exposed to.
But also, I'm on the same angle as Mystic in one thing: I would rather have my kids watching and learning about sex then violence. Not because I like it, because it's a thing that is MEANT to happen and is actually something they SHOULD learn as apposed to just being exposed to.
Omega, the problem is that a lot of unresponsible kids get their hands on it due to bad parenting. I got my hands on violent video games earlier than 17, but mostly because my parents thought that I was ready. And when I say "violent video games", I really mean "violent media". I don't consider video games to be any worse than movies or music.
If you really were mature enough at the time, I don't have a problem with it. I have a problem with deadbeat parents not paying attention to their children, and then giving them Grand Theft Auto to shut them up. The ratings are there as a guideline to pay attention to, not as a rule to be followed.
If you really were mature enough at the time, I don't have a problem with it. I have a problem with deadbeat parents not paying attention to their children, and then giving them Grand Theft Auto to shut them up. The ratings are there as a guideline to pay attention to, not as a rule to be followed.
Omega the Hedgehog
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Again, that is what I mean. Age is definatley a factor, as early age is when you tend to learn the most. But so is maturity. Both should be considered by a parent before allowing this kind of stuff. The real thing is if a parent does give their child a bad game to start with, the parent should at least keep installing into the child's brain that THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU DO IN LIFE.
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