Why Doom Legacy?

[csmgiw]

hey, with a little modification, blenders game engine could work....

All that needs modding is the speed of people, and the powers

 

[Ice]

NOOOO NOT THE LOOPS, slopes ok but loops have been out since 1991 and they have been fine.

Um... Loops require slopes.

 

[Triangle Trumper]

If STJR does make a SRB3 (99.9% chance it won't happen) then they might use ZDoom or GZDoom.

Ahem.

 

[I'll Begin]

Just Code an Engine from scratch for srb3! *shot shot and shot*

Agreed. Why would they go back to DooM for The Final Blast? If it ever happens?

 

[Cue]

Source Engiiiiine

 

[I'll Begin]

 

[Mystic]

Doom Legacy was chosen, because, at the time, it had the feature set we needed most. Floor over floors, and believe it or not, the best internet netcode at the time. Obviously, lots has changed since then in Doom ports, but our hacked up version of Legacy is good enough for our needs, if not anywhere near as pretty.

 

[Kalaron]

10 years of work on this engine

I never knew that the engine was worked on for that long!

Also, I'll Begin, Photoshop?

 

[super silvex]

NOOOO NOT THE LOOPS, slopes ok but loops have been out since 1991 and they have been fine.

Um... Loops require slopes.

You had to spoil the moment - .-

 

[Kalaron]

Starting from GZDoom means no FOF support. At all.

You're thinking of ZDoom. GZDoom has full 3D floors(FOFs+real slopes) with FOF code inherited from Doom Legacy.

 

[SSNTails]

Also, I'll Begin, Photoshop?

Nope, you can do that 'shiny floor' effect in SRB2, believe it or not.

 

[I'll Begin]

All I did was use FOFs and ceiling items to make stuff above and below the floor. It's not a very good tactic, because.

1. Slowdown in large rooms
2. Doesn't reflect your character sprite.
3. Looks like crap in both renderers.

 

[Sik]

Obviously, lots has changed since then in Doom ports, but our hacked up version of Legacy is good enough for our needs, if not anywhere near as pretty.

Add slopes to the SRB2 engine and you get the best raycasting engine in existence. Seriously, I think that's the only feature that would be missing because as far as I know, every other feature made into a raycasting engine ever is already in SRB2. It's just way extremely powerful already.

 

[I'll Begin]

Dash asked me to upload it. Enjoy :P

http://illbegin.sepwich.com/wad/s_fakereflection.wad

 

[Ice]

Doom Legacy was chosen, because, at the time, it had the feature set we needed most. Floor over floors, and believe it or not, the best internet netcode at the time. Obviously, lots has changed since then in Doom ports, but our hacked up version of Legacy is good enough for our needs, if not anywhere near as pretty.

Wasn't the build engine available at the time? I'm pretty sure it supported FOFs and slopes.

 

[Sik]

Take into mind it started being Sonic Doom 2, not SRB2 directly! And Sonic Doom 2 was meant to use Doom 2 :P Remember it all started before SRB2 ever was thought of.

 

[SSNTails]

Wasn't the build engine available at the time? I'm pretty sure it supported FOFs and slopes.

Build does not support FOFs, those catwalks in Duke3D are a hack like the 'bridges' in ZDoom are.

Build engine is under a more restrictive license, has extremely poor editing tool support, had no source code for the LONGEST time, and is also written in Watcom-C and a pain to port (if I remember right, the windows source port of Duke that is available now is practically a whole rewrite). Build is also even less incompatible with OpenGL due to the way it drew the screen (see last sentence).

This is why Tailz Nukem never got past a piece of concept artwork.

 

[Ice]

Wasn't the build engine available at the time? I'm pretty sure it supported FOFs and slopes.

Build does not support FOFs, those catwalks in Duke3D are a hack like the 'bridges' in ZDoom are.

I was expecting something like that.

 

[Silver Fox]

what version of legacy is srb2 using

 

[SSNTails]

It's based off 1.32 beta 4 but I kept adding all the relevant changes they made up through the last version (1.42??)