doom

[Blitzzo]

You need to get a WAD file that has dynamic lighting definitions or RGBA8 format textures. I think there's a lighting definition file for Doom 1 that can be obtained on GZDoom's homepage.

 

[protojo]

either way i like my legacy, it was the first i'd heard of. 2 more questions.
does gzdoom and doomsday have bots? if not *loads legacy*
why do they say legacy is the premier sourceport?

 

[shadow the fox]

sadleay i dont oun doom 1 and i olney have the shareware verson so i cant do it.

 

[TheDarkArchon]

does gzdoom and doomsday have bots? if not *loads legacy*
why do they say legacy is the premier sourceport?

(G)ZDoom has (retarded) bots.
The latter is a case of MAJOR timeline.

 

[BlazingPhoenix]

don't mock me

We aren't mocking you, we're proving something.

 

[protojo]

As for Legacy being true to Vanilla Doom: Ha. Hahaha.

 

[TheDarkArchon]

Legacy doesn't even support Voodoo dolls, for crying out loud, which make MAP30 of TNT Evilution (One of the Final Doom IWADs) unplayable.

 

[protojo]

why is it unplayable? (funny, i beat tnt yesterday)
edit: oh i get ya, i just kill myself with a rocket launcher. btw, if you don't do that the lava will kill you if you wait.

 

[TheDarkArchon]

One of the early Plutonia maps also requires a voodoo dool to give player weapons (It's 7 or 8, I can't remember off the top of my head ATM)

 

[protojo]

ah well.
the main thing i like about legacy is the bots. i don't play online games and have no-one to play with at home so i only play with bots... and love it! also i barely use wads so i don't really care about some of this stuff. besides, ported versions of doom don't use a different source port or have wads. unchanged, i think doom looks amazing. smoothening and lighting looks outstanding. 3d models look too much like quake :(. but overall i don't care, so long as my worst computer can run it and i can play with bots. *loads legacy*

thanks for all the advise, but i still like legacy the best. then again this thread was supposed to be on doom not the engines . dear me.

and:

why do they say legacy is the premier sourceport?

does it mean the first, the #1 or what?
and ssn, why did you make srb with legacy if your willing to tell?

 

[Blitzzo]

Probably because SRB2 has been in production for a long time, and Legacy was a good port to choose back then. Of course, that's not exactly true today.

 

[SSNTails]

Legacy had a chasecamera, was coded in C, and wasn't a big C++ rewrite mess like ZDoom is. It also has (had?) the best network play capability of any port.

SRB2 actually started out in TeamTNT's BOOM for a very short time in 1998.

"Why don't you move it to ZDoom/GZDoom/DOSDoom/JDoom, etc. etc?"

Because you can't just 'move' SRB2 to another port. It's so totally different from Doom you just can't do a plug and play deal. Look at JTE's failed attempt to move SRB2 to ZDoom - you have to rewrite the entire game to do something like that. To move to another source port, it would be as much work as if I just wanted to code SRB2 using The Wizard Needs Food, Badly.

When making a game, if you expect to achieve progress, you have to set goals, choose the stuff you're going to go with, and stick with it. Otherwise you end up with something like Sonic: Project Mettrix (no offense to Stealth), that ends up with new rewritten engines all the time but nothing new in terms of game content.

 

[protojo]

ok, something's changed my mind. Skulltag!!! it has the best features ever (not including graphics enhancements). it's simply amazing. new weapons, game modes. i played my first (working) online game of doom today and it was awsome!!! now legacy's in a sub-directory . one thing i noticed is skulltag (made from zdoom) has no splitscreen . btw on zdoom just how do you use multiplayer anyway?
in 5 days this topic went down to 2nd to the bottom of of the list unbelievable.