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Boss Mayhem: Message Board Edition: Version 4.2 [sc_BossMayhemMBV4.2.wad]
Version: , by Sapheros (That guy that ports) Sapheros is offline
Developer Last Online: Apr 2017

Category: Version: SRB2 Rating: (2 votes - 2.80 average)
Released: 03-05-2017 Last Update: Never Installs: 2
Multiplayer Levels SOCs Scripts Sprites/Graphics

I love to fight bosses, hell, the best parts of a lot of level packs in SRB2 is the chance to kick a boss' sorry ass to kingdom come, SRB2 2.1 has been in fact the BEST of modding era, so much so that even a boss won the OLDC competition once.


i have no quality for a title screen please send help

But what else do I need to say? Oh right. I went out of my way to archive as many available to reuse bosses from SRB2 2.1's modding scene! Each level in this pack is a blast from the past from ported bosses on the MB, obscure bosses from 2.0 ported back, and custom 2.1 bosses that are just amazing and fun to play against. There are up to 21 unique bosses to fight, including the vanilla 7. You want to know what bosses are available? Play it yourself! I'm sure you'll be able to make it out alive... Right? >:)

This mod also heavily features BossRewards.lua and is the main inspiration of it as I originally played this mod.

So why is this called the "MB Edition"? This is actually a revised-for-submissions version of the mod that features bosses that I did have permission to use. The original version featured three bosses that I did not have approval for, and hence had to be removed. You may PM me for any more information on that front and will not be promised the illegal version of the mod.

Of course I can't design a boss for shit so here's some credits for the people that HAVE made them:
FuriousFox
CoatRack
Zipper
The Underground
ManimiFire
Lat'
Ors
Prime 2.0
Blade
Morph
Thompson
RedEnchilada
Chiri
Gaga Hax

these people are wonderful and you should worship them

I want to give special thanks to Lilac and Snow for creating the nice skyboxes in a few of the levels, seriously guys, start making some levels lol

Spoiler: CHANGELOG
Updated to:
Version 2.0
Turned Egg Rock Act 3 into a unlockable once you reach it and if you give up around there you can start over from the secrets menu.

Egg Lober has been added with the permission of ManimiFire.

Devil Super Sonic has been changed into Metal Knuckles (requested by a person that takes quality too seriously Speedwagon)

Renamed MAP99M and MAP97M into PJBOSS and SILENC respectively to prevent conflict with other music packs.

Sped up load times (decided to play around with the default fades so now it loads instantly because idk)

Swapped the placings of Egg Sand Sub and Egg Frostburn for the sake of not realizing you're hearing the same song used for two bosses in this pack (wait that's not supposed to be public!)

EMERGENCY UPDATE
Version 2.1
Fixed an issue where the game would crash at Egg Gauntlet saying it was missing CLM0000.

Added a new function for the final level that makes it more accessible in co-op.

Fixed a song problem in Ghost Boss battle where it was playing Azure Temple's theme.

Updated Title Screen again thanks to Steel Titanium.

Updated to:
Version 3.0

Remade the Hazard Crawla stage to be a little better than before.

A new boss made by me has been added, what is it? I'll never tell, play it yourself!

Updated to:
Version 3.1

Did a few hotfixes based on other mods I used.

Placed the teleport destination in the bleachers of the Castle Eggman portion of Egg Gauntlet so players joining in on the fight don't get an unfair hit.

Updated to:
Version 3.2

More fixes/modifications yay

2.0 Metal Sonic and Knuckles have a proper death animation instead of the awkward ones they had.

Hazard Crawla finally takes the spotlight as first boss! Though... the positions are now swapped... Lat''''''''''''s AMT Crawla also makes an appearance now.

If you haven't found out by now, Megaman is the new boss I've made, and now he's got the runs, becoming even easier than his Version 3.0/3.1 counterparts. He also has a um... simplistic boss cutscene intro now, and his song has been changed as well. His stage also doesn't spawn kill Player 2 in netgames anymore.

Egg Frostburn has lua on his side to "improve" his current moveset, making him look more realistically mobile and dangerous at the same time.

Updated to:
Version 3.3

There's very little for me to mess with technically but now the file size is bigger so download nao



Because I wanted to be special I decided to add a "custom" title screen and intermissions theme as well as changing up the fades a little, including my own custom fade for levels.

The Megaman boss is now up to date with the releases version of the boss.

Pinch music has been added and can be disabled with:
Code:
pinchmus (On/Off)
Defaults to On.

EMERGENCY UPDATE
Version 3.3.1

Fixed an issue with the Megaman Boss not activating the boss intro cutscene for all players.

Fixed an issue involving pinch music and Egg Lober's fight.

Removed pinch music indication.

Updated to:
Version 4.0
An old boss by Lat' has been added, but you'll have a whole level to travel through before getting to him, and this time, he's a rematch like the Checker Wrecker.

Bug fixes/level modifications

EMERGENCY UPDATE
Version 4.1

...I'm sorry...

Fixed a thing number issue where the new Knuckles boss clashed with Metal Knuckles

Changed up the Silver Boss Easter Egg, this time, try not to be Silver when he dies, otherwise you might go down with him... but he's not alone...

Forced disabling player control upon entering the map until the cutscene sequence ended.


Updated to:
Version 4.2
Folks, it's good to take your time, and now that I don't have college classes to attend anymore, I think it's time for personal celebration. A new update that more-or-less, polishes most of the issues in the latest version and adds a couple of new features to boot!

Hard Mode: That old lua isn't getting any use in this mod, So instead, I've decided to allow the player to cripple themselves in this mod. Lemme quickly explain this:

Spoiler: Important Command Info

Setting Hard Mode to "0" will have you play the mod as normal.

Setting Hard Mode to "1" will prevent you from gaining a mercy ring when hitting the boss, as well as gaining score from hitting them.

Setting the Hard Mode to "2" will prevent you from gaining extra lives when defeating bosses, as well as not gaining rings from the boss during the final battle of the mod.

To add to this, the variable you choose will be saved in your config.cfg.

In netgames, this command is only accessible by the Server Owner/Admin. A notification alarm will sound for the entire server upon loading the map, and printing the current variable used and the effect caused by it. The whole server will be in hard mode, so if you're having trouble with bosses... Not sure what I can tell you :P


Egg Rock Zone Act 3 and "The Final Battle" are now fully unlockable levels than can also be accessed in multiplayer. To add to this duo of levels, the aesthetic is more... explosive than usual.

Green Hill Boss and Egg Hopper have been swapped. I realized that Egg Hopper is more abusable than the old Wrecker.

Slightly patched one of the paradoxes that can be obtained in the mod.

Spoiler: Quick Explanation
You can experience a paradox from:
Knuckles
Silver
Shadow
Chuckles

When killed, you will not lose a life, and even in the effect of hardmode, you shouldn't experience a game over too easily. This also mean Silver can now properly fight the Silver boss... god help me the children that will eat this up


Hidden Palace is not that much shit anymore since I pretty much removed most of the level.

Oh, and new fades I guess:



Pinch music has been added and can be disabled with:
Code:
pinchmus (On/Off)
Defaults to On.

Hard Mode can make the mod harder to battle in, just in case you wanted a challenge for once.
Code:
hardmode (0/1/2)
Defaults to 0

If you're looking forward to have your custom/ported boss featured in this mod, shoot out a PM or catch me on Discord, make sure it works 100%, is given proper permission to be used outside of its original purpose and let me know of the difficulty so I can pull my hair out figuring out where to place it.

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Old 03-12-2017   #2
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Old 03-12-2017   #3
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Nice to see it got released to the MB!
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Old 03-14-2017   #4
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Whoever decided that infinitely-spawning Crawla Commanders was a good idea for a boss can kiss my ass. The Metal Sonic fight is trash too and I'm not really fond of not letting the game save at the final boss, considering Egg Gauntlet is such a... gauntlet.

But I really like the idea of this wad and I had a lot of fun up until the mentioned points.
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Old 03-14-2017   #5
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So... Am I kissing your ass then?

Hazard had to get a mini buff from it's original incarnation in New Horizons, since that version had 4 HP and only shot turret bullets.

Metal Sonic... I'm not gonna explain how it was made to let you draw your own conclusions. It was meant to be trash from a very trash mod. :P

Also... I'm not sure how the game is not allowed to save...? I couldn't understand your statement to be honest.

Either way, I'm glad you enjoyed it! It made my weeks in SLADE so much more worth it knowing someone can enjoy and give criticism.
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Also... I'm not sure how the game is not allowed to save...? I couldn't understand your statement to be honest.
Your save file doesn't update to reflect your progress upon reaching Brak Eggman or Boss X. If you Game Over or give up on Boss X, for instance, you have to go through all of Egg Gauntlet and fight Brak Eggman again just to get another shot at it (and I don't think the all the lives you lost the first time through come back).
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Old 03-14-2017   #7
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It's confirmed that Egg Rock Act 3 doesn't save due to hardcoded reasons with act saving... but that boss? Are you perfectly sure?

Turns out that maps that are hidden can't be saved at all. At that point, I'd refuse to give the player that much mercy over boss fights, you're earning your way to the final fight of the mod, or you can just map command past it, no unlockables have been added... Yet.
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At that point, I'd refuse to give the player that much mercy over boss fights, you're earning your way to the final fight of the mod
I don't see why the player should be made to earn their way there by fighting seven bosses, the last one of which is so frustrating to fight that it was removed from the game, with no levels in between to spend replenishing their extra lives, every time they get a Game Over. Boss X isn't an extra boss in the vein of The Doomsday Zone or Mystic Realm Zone; just like all of the other levels, you get sent there automatically after beating the previous level, Chaos Emeralds or not. What's the point of labeling it as hidden?
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Hazard had to get a mini buff from it's original incarnation in New Horizons, since that version had 4 HP and only shot turret bullets.

Metal Sonic... I'm not gonna explain how it was made to let you draw your own conclusions. It was meant to be trash from a very trash mod. :P
Infinite Crawla Commander spawning is just about the last thing I'd think of when thinking of "mini" buffs. Way to go as overboard as possible. Especially since, although this may be just me, the boss seems hard enough with the exploding shots and all.

I don't really approve of changing the crawla boss to make it harder while not changing the Metal Sonic boss not to be awful but it's whatever I guess.

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Also... I'm not sure how the game is not allowed to save...? I couldn't understand your statement to be honest.
It was already clarified, but again, when you get a Game Over or quit the game at the stand-alone ERZ3 boss, the game doesn't save right there, you have to go through the whole Egg Gauntlet again to rematch 2.0 Brak Eggman. It's overkill, especially considering that there's apparently another boss past that (or that's what seems like from reading this thread, I still have to beat giant Brak Eggman so I don't know) and that it doesn't save there either.

I know the ERZ3 thing happens because the game won't save outside of act 1s, but that should be easy to solve.
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The next version will be fixing the ERZ3 issue as an Unlockable, you can access the secrets menu once you reach the boss... However, I uh, forgot to name the .dat properly, so everyone, including myself will start on a new save meant for this mod specifically to prevent clashing with the illegal version, I can't tell you how upset I am after suffering through single player just to get up to brak himself. I can truly understand the frustration...
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Updated to:
Version 2.0
Turned Egg Rock Act 3 into a unlockable once you reach it and if you give up around there you can start over from the secrets menu.

Egg Lober has been added with the permission of ManimiFire.

Devil Super Sonic has been changed into Metal Knuckles (requested by a person that takes quality too seriously Speedwagon)

Renamed MAP99M and MAP97M into PJBOSS and SILENC respectively to prevent conflict with other music packs.

Sped up load times (decided to play around with the default fades so now it loads instantly because idk)

Swapped the placings of Egg Sand Sub and Egg Frostburn for the sake of not realizing you're hearing the same song used for two bosses in this pack (wait that's not supposed to be public!)
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Apologies for the "with no levels in between to spend replenishing their extra lives" comment, by the way. I forgot that you get an extra life every time you defeat a boss.
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EMERGENCY UPDATE
Version 2.1
Fixed an issue where the game would crash at Egg Gauntlet saying it was missing CLM0000.

Added a new function for the final level that makes it more accessible in co-op.

Fixed a song problem in Ghost Boss battle where it was playing Azure Temple's theme.

Updated Title Screen again thanks to Steel Titanium.

---------- Post added at 12:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:19 AM ----------

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Apologies for the "with no levels in between to spend replenishing their extra lives" comment, by the way. I forgot that you get an extra life every time you defeat a boss.
Actually, the problem with Egg Rock Act 3 is that Brak doesn't give you points or an extra life when battling him, so the fight is more or less a juggernaut of luck and skill.
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Updated to:
Version 3.0

Remade the Hazard Crawla stage to be a little better than before.

A new boss made by me has been added, what is it? I'll never tell, play it yourself!
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Updated to:
Version 3.1

Did a few hotfixes based on other mods I used.

Placed the teleport destination in the bleachers of the Castle Eggman portion of Egg Gauntlet so players joining in on the fight don't get an unfair hit.
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I miss getting criticism and responses on this thread... sigh.

anyways

Updated to:
Version 3.2

More fixes/modifications yay

2.0 Metal Sonic and Knuckles have a proper death animation instead of the awkward ones they had.

Hazard Crawla finally takes the spotlight as first boss! Though... the positions are now swapped... Lat''''''''''''s AMT Crawla also makes an appearance now.

If you haven't found out by now, Megaman is the new boss I've made, and now he's got the runs, becoming even easier than his Version 3.0/3.1 counterparts. He also has a um... simplistic boss cutscene intro now, and his song has been changed as well. His stage also doesn't spawn kill Player 2 in netgames anymore.

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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #17
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Hey, a new update for the b-- Oh, it still doesn't save after completing the Egg Gauntlet/at the 2.0 Brak Eggman fight. Damn it.

I liked most of the other improvements, though. The Hazard Crawla fight is actually really fun now. Megaman was cool, but he could really use a tell before he shoots his three pellets. And you should put the transitions back, some of the bosses (like the Egg Frostburn) attack super fast and it's impossible to avoid taking at least one hit without the slow transitions showing you that you spawned right in front of the boss and to jump out of the way as soon as possible.
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yay more responses

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Updated to:
Version 2.0
Turned Egg Rock Act 3 into a unlockable once you reach it and if you give up around there you can start over from the secrets menu.
I mean, it's more tolerable in SP, granted it's not based on your save file. Most bosses do have a warning sound when firing, Megaman would... but I honestly had trouble trying to make a decent-ish moveset and make him a difficult boss at the same time. readying most of his moves is... eh... I'm planning to separate Megaman from Boss Mayhem and be an easily insert-able boss.
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I haven't tried the new boss yet, but removing the tells for attacks shouldn't be the way to make a boss harder. Fair game design is about making sure the player understands why they got hurt/died and how they can improve. When someone makes a mistake, they should feel like it was their fault, not the game's.

Shovel Knight is probably the best example I can think of (at the moment) that has challenging bosses that don't hide what they're about to do. Specter Knight, one of the first bosses, has very well telegraphed attacks; so much so that it doesn't feel cheap when the arena goes dark. Yet I still know people who've gotten their ass kicked by him. Especially its New Game + mode; the increased difficulty's made me appreciate what's gone into the telegraphing in that game.

That turned into a little bit of an off-topic ramble, but the point is that making attacks less predictable isn't the only way to make something more challenging, as well as risks making something feel cheap unless handled very carefully
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Hmm, I should try to think of something that will work for the player. Megaman was made to move elite-like before I gave him the ability to walk.
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