Metal Sonic

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Meet the official metal forms of Tails and Knuckles: Tails Doll and Metal Knuckles, both from Sonic R. As for Shadow, Speedwagon is working on that, so be patient.

He was saying he wishes there were Metal characters for Knuckles and Tails and there are actually. Just go to the Archived 2.0 Character Release Section and you can find Metal Knux and Tails Doll.
 
Sadly, Neither might make it past 2.1 due to the fact that all Tails Doll has canonnly done in general is float, and Metal Knux canonnly just glides...
 
An Error

When over-driving under water,the game crashes.
Here is the error message:
srb2win caused a Stack Overflow in module srb2win.exe at 0023:00547613.
Exception handler called in main thread.
Error occurred at 1/18/2015 17:32:22.
C:\Users\koryw_000\Downloads\SRB2\srb2win.exe, run by koryw_000.
4 processor(s), type 586 21.4865.
Program Memory from 0x00010000 to 0x7FFEFFFF
0 MBytes physical memory.

Registers:
EAX=000026bc CS=0023 EIP=00547613 EFLGS=00210202
EBX=11ed2048 SS=002b ESP=00095c14 EBP=00095c28
ECX=00092c1c DS=002b ESI=000000b6 FS=0053
EDX=00000000 ES=002b EDI=11ed2048 GS=002b
Command Line parameters: -opengl -file C:\Users\koryw_000\Downloads\SRB2\MetalSonic.wad Bytes at CS : EIP:
83 ?? 09 ?? 00 ?? 2d ?? 00 ?? 10 ?? 00 ?? 00 ?? eb ?? e9 ?? 29 ?? c1 ?? 83 ?? 09 ?? 00 ?? 89 ??
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My Thoughts on the Mod

-Overdrive is over-powered, perhaps gimping the speed or speed shoes not activating it would work. It also activates at random with slopes and corners
-High jump shouldn't increase height with speed, this breaks A LOT of levels(Castle Eggman, Deep Sea,ect.)
-Should have increased gravity and limited air control for balance,plus he is made of metal.
-Default water running should be removed(Poor Deep Sea Zone,)
-Great sprite work and sound design, feels really professional!

Overall,great mod! 9/10 would install again.
 
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high jump may break levels but it's a feature that makes him different from a clone, also water running is an ability that everyone should have it doesn't make sense for sonic not to have it since he does that in the mainstream games, also everyone hates Deep Sea Zone or atleast a vast majority, because let's face it no one likes water levels.
 
also water running is an ability that everyone should have

wheezes not really

It would make sense if the character in question floats like Metal Sonic, has the power to do something to the water to make it solid, or is otherwise extremely fast that he or she would break physics in some way. Someone like Hinote for example should probably not have water running because she's a fire cat and her top speed isn't too fabulous. Besides, if you're not too keen on entering water you could always skip across it with the spindash.

also everyone hates Deep Sea Zone or atleast a vast majority, because let's face it no one likes water levels.

Azure Temple Zone got into SRB2 because of how much people liked it when it was entered into the OLDC, even considering the fact that it's a water level. I think you just might have something against aqueous liquids. B)
 
high jump may break levels but it's a feature that makes him different from a clone, also water running is an ability that everyone should have it doesn't make sense for sonic not to have it since he does that in the mainstream games, also everyone hates Deep Sea Zone or atleast a vast majority, because let's face it no one likes water levels.

High-jump is a bit lame in my opinion, too, if only because there is no visual indicator for when it kicks in.

However, Deep Sea Zone is my favorite zone in the game. Shut yo mouth. :P
 
well deep sea zone was annoying me sorry to offend, also I'm saying they should have it because in the newer games sonic runs on water all the time.
 
This thread is for discussing the Metal Sonic character WAD posted in the OP, not complaining about things you don't like in the main game.
 
I hated the high-jump ability so much that I edited Metal Sonic's S_SKIN to change CA_JUMPBOOST to CA_THOK.

---------- Post added at 05:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:15 PM ----------

Tails_Doll.png


Metal_Knuckles_3.jpeg


Meet the official metal forms of Tails and Knuckles: Tails Doll and Metal Knuckles, both from Sonic R. As for Shadow, Speedwagon is working on that, so be patient.

I know this is an old post..

But I claimed Tails Doll already.
 
At a glance, the thok makes perfect sense for Metal Sonic since he's supposed to be a duplicate of our blue pincushion in the first place. However, it ends up Metal Sonic a bit too similar to Sonic. Not only that, but the Overdrive + High Jump combo trumps the thok in utility whenever you have the space to effectively control it. I think the abilities Metal Sonic currently has mesh perfectly together, and it'd be hard to find a balance between any other current abilities you could chose from (unless you pull a fast one on me and make a new one).
 
It *could* be nice to see yet another Tails Doll WAD, but did we really need to know you changed the S_SKIN for this?
Well, for the S_SKIN, sort of because I would expect Metal Sonic to play just like Sonic. Take his gameplay from any offical Sonic game, (Sonic Adventure DX, Sonic Adventure 2/Battle, Sonic 4 Episode Metal, etc.)


Also, Tails Doll isn't going to have gameplay like Sonic R/Previous Tails Doll WADs. That would be boring and that gameplay wouldn't fit in other gametypes than race.
Plus he will actually have work and effort put into him, rather than having 5 frames as the whole WAD like all Tails Doll WADs did.
 
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Metal sonic in sa2 battle (I don't think it's like this in the original sa2) has a higher jump and farther jump dash than sonic/shadow. Just saying for the sake of knowledge.
 
Metal sonic in sa2 battle (I don't think it's like this in the original sa2) has a higher jump and farther jump dash than sonic/shadow. Just saying for the sake of knowledge.

Yeah and he had that thing instead of the spindash, and he didn't have any battle attacks.

What I meant to say was that he played similar to sonic.
 
S_SKIN discussion (the part that involves this WAD):

It's true that Metal Sonic has had all the capabilities and potential to match Sonic's to a tee, but I always figured that he has even more hidden "potential" to more than just rival Sonic, but be, in some way, "greater," and thus have some form of difference between the two of them. I like the jump boost mechanic for this WAD because Metal doesn't absolutely need a thok in order to reach the speeds that vanilla Sonic has, and in turn, could reach places that Sonic barely can't get to on his own. You editing the S_SKIN kinda sorta demoralizes all this. Couldn't you keep it as your own edit, and not have to share it with us?

Tails Doll WAD mini-discussion (the part that, for no reason, had to be brought up and has nothing really to do with Metal Sonic):

Looks like a start for me to look forward to this, although it would be nice to describe exactly what gameplay it would hold. Save that for your own eventual Editing topic, regarding this. Wouldn't want to get unrelated to Metal Sonic here; already a fourth of this post dedicated to the off-topic Tails Doll WAD-in-progress - good enough.

EDIT: wow, was I slow making this; I think I got, like, triple ninja'd here across the forums from just talking about Tails Doll alone, and there usually isn't enough activity here to cause such a something to occur
 
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