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[Unknownlight]

Originally Posted by ToBeFree

Taking a screenshot, then pausing the game makes that restriction useless. ;)

If someone goes to the effort of doing that, then they deserve the advantage. XD

[gregory_house]

Originally Posted by *Steel*

You should really extend the time to beat THZ2. It is ridiculously hard to get under 2 minutes already and with that elevator at the end giving you instantly +10 seconds it's near impossible. That's from an experianced player that managed to get AGZ under 4 minutes by the way...

You know, you don't necessarily HAVE to be Sonic to earn the time attack emblem...

[Steelie]

Originally Posted by gregory_house

You know, you don't necessarily HAVE to be Sonic to earn the time attack emblem...

Oh, I like the challenge. Besides, I've explored a bit and saw that the Deton path is many times faster and actually managed to get the emblem.

[fickleheart]

The Metal Sonic Race Start object would be really cool expanded out into a multipurpose Actor object, that could use multiple different instances of the object and replays for different purposes and possibly different skins somehow? Ideally it'd be nice to be able to tag the race-starting linedef to a specific instance of the thing (angle/360 on the thing in question?) and give it an argument for a specific replay file to use. I'm imagining all kinds of possibilities from that like actor paths branching based on certain level conditions and opening up new level paths for the player and such.

And hey, maybe the replays don't have to be limited to that specific object? If one could set a trigger to take over the player's controls based on a replay file, it'd open up some neat cinematic possibilities for more elaborate intros/endings or maybe even mid-level cutscenes? (Ensuring the replay is incorporated smoothly would, obviously, be the responsibility of the mapper.)

[Senku Niola]

Split Thok sound and Ring throw sound. These two sounds still share the exact same sound so if you set your Thok sound to say the armageddon shield sound, you'll get armageddon ring slinging as well. It'd be nice if these were actually split.

[AozoraJustin]

So I was thinking of this for the new NIGHTS special stages.

When I was playing today earlier, I entered a Special stage with an ally that was able to get to the Ideya Capture before I could (yes I know I'm new to NIGHTS mode, just bare with me, 2.1 is quite recent and the mode itself is kinda tricky controlling with 8-way controls instead of analog) thus taking the Emerald, and thus I couldn't finish and had to wait for the other player since there was no way for me to take an emerald of my own after the Ideya Capture is destroyed by the other player.

For the sake of scoring in Special stages (not in NIGHTS mode itself which is accessed from the menus), there could be the addition of "Sphere Bonus" and "Time Bonus" to go along with "Link Bonus", since one major gripe I had about the old Special Stages was clearing it would always give you a set score unless you fail the Special Stage, and despite it being timed, there wasn't really any reward for finishing it quickly.

[Larztard]

Originally Posted by Senku Niola

Split Thok sound and Ring throw sound. These two sounds still share the exact same sound so if you set your Thok sound to say the armageddon shield sound, you'll get armageddon ring slinging as well. It'd be nice if these were actually split.

This needs to happen. I have always been bugged by that since Day 1.

[fickleheart]

As a minor thing, it'd be pretty cool to have a Lua function that could get the name of the key assigned to a control, for HUD listing purposes or something. It'd certainly be easier to say "Press Space to explode!" instead of "Press Ring Toss Normal to explode!"

[frozenLake]

As a thing for modders, would it be possible to add custom LUA inputs for the controls?

[Nekoishi]

sounds more like suggestions than a bug report, perhaps you should go put that in the suggestions topic?

[r543]

Custom Character wads need to be unnerfed by a bit:
Allow to save with custom characters
This was a feature of the old Srb2, but it was buggy because it saved it like this:
Character 4(4th character of the menu screen), Stage...........
The problem of that was that if you loaded a different character, that one was character 4.
This old saving system works with wads that use it's own saving system, but not for the normal srb2.
I thought about a possible way to add a saving system, and here is my idea:
If the game saves the wad, save the character name too. For example "shadow". Now, if the player goes to the file select screen, check if a wad, with the character named "shadow" is loaded. If there is a character with that name, then show the savefile. If not, then don't.
If this is too hard to add, then add back the old system to allow saving.

Character Wads
Character wads got nerfed a time ago because people started to create "way too powerful" characters. I can see why that was a problem, but it limits the character creation by a lot. If they want to break the game with their op characters, then allow them to. Not everyone will abuse them and only play that.
I think there should be more options on Ability2. Currently we have this:
Spinjump+Spindash
Multiability, no Spindash/Spinjump
no Spinjump/Spindash

Spinjump=(can be 0 for no spinjump or 1 for spinjump)
Spindash=(again, 0 for no, 1 for yes,2 for rolling only(like in sonic 1))

It isn't possible to have gliding without climbing or climbing without gliding or set if the character breaks walls by only touching themand Waterrun is only enabled if your character can "swim".
So how about adding a option to customize that ?

Multiability=(Allows you to use the ability multiple times)
(Currently, this removes the spinning ability if you turn it on)
Power=(this sets how your character breaks walls)(this is very good for custom knuckles characters so that they play like knuckles)
Climb=(allows you to set if the character can climb. If your character doesn't glide, then you can use a thok to hold to the wall. If your character can't glide or thok, then jumping allows you to climb to walls. Again, good for custom wads and something that was possible in a old version of srb2(mechaknuckles couldn't climb, but glide))
Supermultiability=(this is for super forms, checks if super forms can use multiability. Knuckles uses this)
Attackspeed=(this is for match mode. Knuckles shoots rings 1.5 times faster and bombs and autorings 2x faster. Setting it to 1 changes it so it's like Knuckles and setting it to 2 makes the character shoot slower. Again, made for custom knuckles characters that play like knuckles)
Superform=(can the character go super ? Yes, this should work in singleplayer too)
Supercolor=(works like the normal color, exept that it sets the color for the super form. Supersonic's color flashing or knuckles' color should be selectable here).
Superfloat=(sets if the super form can fly, like sonic can if you hold down the spin button)
Waterrun=(allows the character to run on water)
Swim=(allows the character to swim, swimming action should be removed)
Endcolor=(Currently, the game uses Startcolor, and then takes the next 16 colors as changeable colors. Some characters have more colors that that and it would be very nice to be able to make the color range bigger/smaller)
Superstartcolor/Superendcolor(this would be great for shadow or amy wads, so that the changeable color in multiplayer isn't the color that gets changed when turning super).

This would allow us to make character customizing much better(and probably allow op characters, but it's not like someone forces you to use it. If you don't load that wad on your server, then people can't play as it, so this shouldn't be a big problem.)
Lua already allows a lot, that can be very good or gamebreaking, but I think that the community can help a lot by telling players what's overpowered and what not. I think that custom characters should be able to collect emblems too, while they make it a bit easier, they aren't too op(if the mod creator balances them, and I'm sure that there will be balanced characters that aren't overpowered(exept sms). I can see why this wasn't possible in the older versions(you could make a tails character and use that to fly up and get some sonic emblems easy, but now every character can get every emblem, so no problem here.) Think about it like this: What if I want to play as a shadow that's a reskin of sonic ?

[Zero_the_artificial]

Here's a suggestion: A TRUE final boss.
It should go like this: If you dont get the Seven chaos emeralds, after the credits you'd hear an evil laugh and the emeralds would appear in Eggman's hands.
If you do get the Seven Chaos Emeralds, then this sould happen: After beating the "Final Boss" It should be followed by a cutscene where Sonic, Tails and Knuckles are heading towards the Egg Rock Core to destroy it. Moments later, Brak Eggman reactivates, and flies towards the Core to selfdestruct the Egg Rock, with Sonic, Tails and Knuckles inside. This first part should be like the race with Metal Sonic: if Brak gets first, he blows everything up with you in it. If you get first, You win... or not.
Eggman reveals that he was using the power of the Egg Rock COMBINED with the Chaos Emeralds, until you got them back. He attempts to grab them off of the group, but they turn Super and Brak Eggman takes advantage of the Core's power to become even Stronger.
This fight would be tougher than his last fight; all of his attacks would drain 10 rings.
After you beated him, Eggman activates the Selfdestruct sequence. Eggman escapes, leaving you only with 30 seconds to fly away from the Egg rock before it's too late.
In this stage there would be A LOT of boxes and meteors trying to slow you down. If you dont get in time, Bad ending. If you do, Good Ending.
This would make the Story in SRB2 deeper, and the TRUE Final boss would be more epic.
Some people argue that 2.1's Final boss couldn't have been more Anti-Climax. So this is an idea for STJR. Come on. Do something like this.

[Maximus Universal]

Originally Posted by Zero_the_artificial

Here's a suggestion: A TRUE final boss.
It should go like this: If you dont get the Seven chaos emeralds, after the credits you'd hear an evil laugh and the emeralds would appear in Eggman's hands.
If you do get the Seven Chaos Emeralds, then this sould happen: After beating the "Final Boss" It should be followed by a cutscene where Sonic, Tails and Knuckles are heading towards the Egg Rock Core to destroy it. Moments later, Brak Eggman reactivates, and flies towards the Core to selfdestruct the Egg Rock, with Sonic, Tails and Knuckles inside. This first part should be like the race with Metal Sonic: if Brak gets first, he blows everything up with you in it. If you get first, You win... or not.
Eggman reveals that he was using the power of the Egg Rock COMBINED with the Chaos Emeralds, until you got them back. He attempts to grab them off of the group, but they turn Super and Brak Eggman takes advantage of the Core's power to become even Stronger.
This fight would be tougher than his last fight; all of his attacks would drain 10 rings.
After you beated him, Eggman activates the Selfdestruct sequence. Eggman escapes, leaving you only with 30 seconds to fly away from the Egg rock before it's too late.
In this stage there would be A LOT of boxes and meteors trying to slow you down. If you dont get in time, Bad ending. If you do, Good Ending.
This would make the Story in SRB2 deeper, and the TRUE Final boss would be more epic.
Some people argue that 2.1's Final boss couldn't have been more Anti-Climax. So this is an idea for STJR. Come on. Do something like this.

I absolutely agree with this, the final bosses of srb2 were always anti-climactic. and also, Super Tails & Super Flickies.

[MascaraSnake]

We saw it the first time. Now stop posting the same stuff over and over.

[fickleheart]

Please add a lines table to sector_t that contains all of the linedefs that make it up. Or a sides table for sidedefs that make it up. (In that case, a line variable in side_t containing the parent line_t would be great.) Having to iterate through every linedef to find a particular one in a sector is incredibly shitty and slow in large maps.

Also, the Join (Search) menu should probably either default to a room or the structure should be changed to pick Join <-> pick room <-> view game list. As it is right now it's incredibly confusing (it took me a little while to figure out you had to pick a room myself) and kind of a turn off for multiplayer.

[Puppyfaic]

How about an option to see a server's file list in-game? Like, when you're highlighted over a server, instead of pressing Jump, press Fire Ring or something and you'll get a list of the server's added files instead.

[Steelie]

It'd be nice if you made servers that don't accept joins at the moment transparent like with full servers.

[fickleheart]

(Forgive me for pounding you guys with Lua-related suggestions, but these are things that would really help me and others out.)

Some sort of function that checks if a lump exists quickly when passed a string with the name. I have a function that really needs that, as right now it's checking for the existence of a graphic by calling v.cachePatch() and checking its offsets, which works when there are only 18 to iterate through (Ax, AxAy, AyAx, A0), but when I start adding in other options (Axzy, zyAx to complete the different ways a sprite can be named) that number goes up to about 920, which obviously is horrifying for the game code.

[Trolo Bobo]

For the 2.1.5 update or any other, my suggestions are these:
-I think Tails should get some sprites when getting super in multiplayer. It currently uses Sonic's ones.
-Please do something about those dark blue menus. I know that I've already said it and they are blue because it's easy to read the text on it, but can you at least make a small border around the boxes or a simple texture so that it won't look so simple?
2.1 reached 2.1.4 in less than a week after the release of 2.1. That means that the developers care about this game, and if this happens, I'm sure that any bug will be fixed.

[fickleheart]

Could v.cachePatch() (and v.patchExists()) be made case-sensitive? As it is I can't grab PLAYa1 because the function is rewriting my request to a PLAYA1 request.