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GastlyGibus™ 12-30-2018 04:24 AM

Massive Mountain Zone
 
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Hello.
I don't really know how to sell this level out since there isn't really a lot here since this is my first level of anything.

I hope it's enjoyable and fun...

Thanks for looking at this thread.




you are now breathing manually

Oh yeah i almost forgot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83PbP-WWCmA&t=2s
Here's the song that was used.

MascaraSnake 12-31-2018 09:39 AM

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Ice 01-01-2019 06:06 AM

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Is it just me, or are first levels just getting better and better?? This one is dope! Considering the amount of things you got working on your "first try", this level is pretty astounding. I'm not just talking about technical stuff like fof stacking and falling rocks and emblems, but gameplay ideas such as scale, flow, and exploration.

Scale is especially hard for new mappers to grasp and it looks like you've basically got it down. The open areas provide a good amount of space to run around in and aren't WAY too open so that the player gets bored. Flow is good, too. The map is never uncomfortably cramped, and platforms and hazards are spaced apart well enough to run through the level without getting bogged down by awkward level design. Exploration is awesome, especially in the early few rooms of the level. It was fun to search through all the nooks and crannies, and it shows that you had fun building nooks and crannies. Nooks and crannies are my jam.

There are a few things that you did that helped reinforce the theme, too. I really liked the music of the level. It gave the atmosphere of mystery and exploration of a long-forgotten mountain with long-forgotten caves. There were also neat little details here and there that showed that you put some thought into how everything got the way it was. The level is a big climb, too, which further gives the sense that you are climbing a massive mountain.

That being said, though, there were some ways that you subtracted from the theme, too. The most obvious one (to me) was the enemy spam. By god there's a lot of enemies! Not particularly in number, but in type. I think there's nearly every type of enemy in SRB2 crammed in here, even though you didn't need to include them. Why is there an shield enemy here? Or the water skimmer dudes? Or a million archers? The theme doesn't really support any of these enemies besides the desert enemies and maybe the crawlas, but only because they're so generic. Maybe the explanation is that Eggman is exploring the mountain too, but even in the regular sonic games he makes sure to build them theme-appropriate! Their placement doesn't make much sense either. Most of the time the enemies are clustered in large lumps that you can run right past which just reinforces how unnecessary they are.

There were also a couple of visual glitches, in particular I found these the most obvious:
Spoiler:

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Above: strange rendering issue on ceiling and floor
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Above: missing texture on one of the pillars ahead (disregard me getting hit lol)


The last nitpick I have is something that I mentioned to Evertone in the Blossom Valley topic: I think your imagination was running on low as you finished the level. The first few areas are open and full of stuff to see... but the last areas were blander and less detailed with nowhere to go besides the path ahead. I would have preferred that you kept making big rooms with stuff to explore rather than empty rooms that are only worth running through once. It's okay to stop a level once you run out of ideas!

But don't take my criticisms too harshly!! This was a damn good first level, and hell, it's just a good level! The last thing I'd want is for you to quit mapping; quite the opposite, actually. I want you to make as many maps as you possibly can because it's obvious from this level that you have enormous potential. In other words, you rock! Keep mapping! And quit selling yourself short, it should be obvious that you've made something to be proud of. Self-deprecation will get you reassuring comments for now, but eventually people will buy into the idea that you suck... when you totally don't!

Also, I'm sorely disappointed that I made it to this platform and there were no goodies for me:
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GastlyGibus™ 01-01-2019 03:43 PM

Thank you very much for the criticism and for the things you have said.
The funny thing is the various enemy placements was mostly me trying to fill said rooms.
Being that i will admit that the egg guard and the skimers where a last decision thing, they are mostly there because i thought that one room with the light piercing through it and those water holes where a little empty.

HomestuckTrash 01-01-2019 06:15 PM

This was really good! My only complaint is that the music doesn't loop, make sure you fix that for your next level.

Rumia1 01-01-2019 09:35 PM

Oh my goodness that was great! I knew you could make a good level if you tried!

I don't see a lot of the beginner shortcomings I see from most first time maps here, either. You have great texture variety, nothing feels flat and lifeless or has dead ends, as Ice said the map feels HUGE! The enemy placement is fine despite the fact that you've found a way to cram a lot of enemy types into the level, I never felt any of them were unfair. I didn't get lost in any of the rooms despite how big they were and the rooms were well decorated.

I do have a few minor nitpicks that I noticed while playing though, I would've liked to have seen a little better texture alignment in areas like hereand here
And I discovered what may just be a visual glitch here. (before you ask, yes I'm running the latest version of SRB2)

Petit The Hedge 01-14-2019 02:41 AM

When i download the file, winrar says it's corrupted.

And yes, i did re-download it.

GastlyGibus™ 01-15-2019 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Petit The Hedge (Post 804456)
When i download the file, winrar says it's corrupted.

And yes, i did re-download it.

Oh no.
Do i need to just change the file with the copy i have or do i need to do something else?

Petit The Hedge 01-16-2019 03:19 AM

idk.

Wait a sec, i'll re-download it again to see the error again.

Just so i can be more specific.

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Well, it says it's in a unknown format OR corrputed, so you might have to re-upload it.


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