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Mystic 06-21-2007 09:08 PM

Two-Click Banning
 
This is just a warning to all, but the banning system has been majorly streamlined by AJ. Now, all we need to do to ban you is click "okay" twice, and it will do everything else for us.

What this means is that we will be MUCH more liberal about giving out bans whenever it is appropriate, so bans should be much more frequent now for those breaking the rules.

You have been forewarned.

Draykon 06-21-2007 09:30 PM

Awesome, no more reason not to ban idiots.

I'll Begin 06-21-2007 09:42 PM

Better shape up if I don't wanna get banned, but I should be fine.

Shuffle 06-21-2007 09:57 PM

OMG MISTICK U SUK U THINK UR SO COOL BAN ME IF U THINK U CAN IL JUST CUM BAK

Maou-Shin Daioka 06-21-2007 10:18 PM

I better watch what I say more closely then, lest I get banned.

Segmint 06-21-2007 11:37 PM

Hehe, did you download a

PHPBB MOD?

SSNTails 06-22-2007 12:27 AM

No, I've been coding the boards, lol.

Segmint 06-22-2007 03:01 AM

Oh. >.>

Sonow Hakura 06-22-2007 03:10 AM

Wait, I have never used a PHPBB forum before. So, how did you have to ban before?

Segmint 06-22-2007 03:13 AM

Well, they would have to go to the Admin CP and manually input their IP, which would show on the main page of the Admin CP, but it's a bit of a hassle, and takes too long. Two clicks is faster, and I gotta say, it makes a huge difference.

Edit: Well, actually, if they banned the IP, they wouldn't even be able to see the forums, so the tempbans are by user, in which they would have to manually input the username.

Latius 06-22-2007 07:52 AM

But yet if someone used more than one account, that could be a problem. If you ban just one of them, they could use the others, and they would had evaded the ban by doing that. If I was a mod, and I found out that someone was using more than one account, I would send a message to all of the accounts that they better deleate all but one account - if they give a GOOD reason why they are using more than one account, I would let them be, but if not, and they didn't deleate all but one account, I would deleate ALL their accounts - no exception! But I'm not a mod, just a normal user. So I couldn't do that, even if I wanted to. But this would help stop people from advoiding bans.

Adam Hillman.

Mystic 06-22-2007 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Segmint
Well, they would have to go to the Admin CP and manually input their IP, which would show on the main page of the Admin CP, but it's a bit of a hassle, and takes too long. Two clicks is faster, and I gotta say, it makes a huge difference.

Edit: Well, actually, if they banned the IP, they wouldn't even be able to see the forums, so the tempbans are by user, in which they would have to manually input the username.

No, it's much, MUCH worse than that.

Steps to ban someone previously:

1. Go into the ban control and ban them.
2. Go into the user control and change their title to "Tempbanned (Strike 1)"
3. Go into the Staff Lounge and add the line "Username (Strike 1; Ban Reason; Date)" into the Administrative Action Log
4. Private message the banned user with the ban reason.
5. Three days later, unban him, change his user title back, and go back into the Administrative Action Log to report that the ban has been undone.

Now, then, that SUCKED.

Thanks to AJ, the entirety of the above is under a simple "Ban" button next to the user's post, and I simply enter in the duration, reason, and the user title I want them to have and it does the rest for me. It even displays which strike the guy is on. None of that junk is necessary anymore. Banning goes from taking 5 minutes to taking 5 seconds.

Vash 06-22-2007 12:46 PM

Guess it wouldn't be much of a delay if that person was online then suddenly get tempbanned these days.

Segmint 06-22-2007 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic
No, it's much, MUCH worse than that.

Steps to ban someone previously:

1. Go into the ban control and ban them.
2. Go into the user control and change their title to "Tempbanned (Strike 1)"
3. Go into the Staff Lounge and add the line "Username (Strike 1; Ban Reason; Date)" into the Administrative Action Log
4. Private message the banned user with the ban reason.
5. Three days later, unban him, change his user title back, and go back into the Administrative Action Log to report that the ban has been undone.
Now, then, that SUCKED.

Well, Mystic, just to ban them normally wouldn't take too long, but since all of the bans are pretty much specialized here, I can see how this is a huge improvement.

Oh, by the way, did you code in the ability for the forum to automatically unban a user after a certain amount of time? If not, I say that would be pretty useful, and;

Quote:

Originally Posted by ah2190
But yet if someone used more than one account, that could be a problem. If you ban just one of them, they could use the others, and they would had evaded the ban by doing that. If I was a mod, and I found out that someone was using more than one account, I would send a message to all of the accounts that they better deleate all but one account - if they give a GOOD reason why they are using more than one account, I would let them be, but if not, and they didn't deleate all but one account, I would deleate ALL their accounts - no exception! But I'm not a mod, just a normal user. So I couldn't do that, even if I wanted to. But this would help stop people from advoiding bans.

Adam Hillman.

Ok, I don't want to be banned for backseat moderating, but do I even have to say it?
Anyway...

Adam, the administrators can tell who is evading a ban easily by checking their IP, and yes, people DO get banned for evading bans. There would be no reason for someone to use more than one account other than evading, and there is no good enough reason to use more than one. Honestly, you don't have to delete it, you disable the account, and ban the regular one, this way you can tell which account is which (copy vs. real), but usually if it's a useless account, such as one without posts, they do a member purge which gets rid of them, and sort of "cleans up" the member list. "Advoiding bans" is actually a good thing, and why would you want to help stop it? To avoid a ban means to follow the rules in order to stay, and trying hardest not to break one. Evading a ban is a different story, but if they've been permanently banned (either Strike 3, or the newest one, (Permbanned Instant)) they won't be able to even see the forum from their own household (considering the house uses the same router, and not more than one (which doesn't make sense)), which renders them pretty much screwed. I hope that helped explain things.





*banned*

nadjili 06-23-2007 06:59 AM

Aww man. Now It's easier for them to ban us and for me to get banned! :cry:

Chaos Zero 64 06-23-2007 02:06 PM

You wouldn't have to worry about it if you actually follow the rules. Being worried about getting banned faster means you don't bother to check the rules out.

Omega the Hedgehog 06-23-2007 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nadjili
Aww man. Now It's easier for them to ban us and for me to get banned! :cry:

I fail to see how any of this is a bad thing at all.

Arrow 06-23-2007 07:02 PM

I know, right? I swear. It's not like we were lazy administrators previously who would sometimes feel tired and let ban-worthy offenses slide because we didn't feel like going to the trouble. We went to the trouble alright.

The difference now is that it's quicker for us, making time here easier in general.

ST218 06-23-2007 07:34 PM

Come to think of it, Arrow, have you ever actually banned anyone? We always chalk it up to Mystic and FF, I was wondering if you were ever involved.

Omega the Hedgehog 06-23-2007 07:43 PM

From the looks of the log they have in the Staff Lounge, yeah, he has.

Unless that's just him logging the other staff members' actions.


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