Official Level Design Collab 2023: Round 2

Official Level Design Collab 2023: Round 2 1.1

I'm really sorry but the quality of this one is the lowest it's been in years, a lot of poorly thought out ideas or extremely barren maps and almost nothing feels like it has the raw passion of the last OLDC.
The hub is also much worse than last year's there should REALLY be some form of quality control here because Metallic City should not have been allowed in and various other maps just feel somewhat lazy.

Hoping next year is back to the quality I expect out of the OLDC.
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I can understand the love of other players for the hub, but I think that this is the most terrible hub in all OLDC that were.

this is not a hub, this is some kind of hangout level. I don't want to play hangout. if I have the desire, I'll download some mod with such levels and play it. I absolutely dislike this giant mess of literally everything. I've never gotten lost in such large and useless locations. There are even literally just empty rooms with no levels. I just want to run around a small level where there is access to other levels. it's all that I need. (I understand that a small hub can't be created so easily, because there are damn 30 levels, but I think this can be managed.)

I absolutely don't like the quality of the levels. no, there are definitely some really good and enjoyable levels here (like 3-4 levels) but most of them look like they were... I don’t know how to put it correctly... made by not very experienced players? I'm not saying that all levels have to be amazing like THZ/CEZ/past OLDCs winners or something else, but I want at least a minimum GFZ/HHZ/standard.

I wanted to participate in this OLDC but after the whole competitive part disappeared... wait...

I feel like things have gotten worse since it became just a "collab" now. there is no competition here and, therefore, no one wants to make super cool levels (even if a person lacks experience). I can try to make a level OR I can try to make a cool level to take first place. I think these are completely different concepts. (perhaps there is different reason?)

if it has now become a collab because other players help other players and because of this the meaning of the competition is lost... because standards 2.2. have grown incredibly and you won’t be able to make a super-cool level that will be at least in the top three... and because of this it takes a lot more time...

well that definitely changes a lot. or is it?

2.2 really changed a lot. and the first thing it did was raise the minimum standard (or what else can you call it?). you can't just do it the way you did it in 2.1 or before. It's a different era. secondly, these are possibilities. new features that were not in 2.1 and slopes. UDMF.

what does all this give? now creating a quality level takes a lot of time and the creator must have good experience. if you don't create levels much and have no idea what design is, well, I think your level won't be very good. I don't want to say that you shouldn't participate in OLDC, because I think OLDC is different.

if you want to improve, make levels and release them on MB and share it on discord - people will tell you what’s wrong with your level (oh wait, no one will write any criticism on MB because it's not a super amazing creation... sorry... no one will say anything about your level (I think this is a completely different problem))

if there is a problem that the player wants to participate and they has some problems due to which he can't complete they level, third parties can be involved (as is already the case? I didn't participate in OLDC and can't say anything about it, but it seems like glaber, othius, chasesp, larz t, tatsuru and maybe someone else already helping with this? it's a difficult question).

I'll make a future video about each level and the hub. also, somewhere in the near future I'll make my own version of the hub to show my vision of what it should be (but you won't find the download link here because mb rules, sorry :^ )

despite this, I think the first two OLDCs were the best even despite such an abundance of new 2.2 stuff.

well, this topic is actually much more complicated and I think something needs to be done about it. of course, I may not be offering very good options, but I think you've got food for thought.
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